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Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

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Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by North Country Gal » Wed Oct 14, 2020 12:31 pm

I haven't posted much about my shooting of late, since the bulk of our shooting has been in the backyard with air guns, this year. We have been doing a little backyard shooting with the rimfires, though, because we do have steel bullet traps rated for rimfires. Out of consideration of our neighbors, we do use various types of low noise rimfire ammo when we shoot our 22s in the back yard, even though accuracy of this type of ammo is basically plinking grade. Nevertheless, accuracy is good enough for some serious offhand practice. Yesterday was a good example.

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It's very hard for me to go too long without shooting our Winchester/Miroku Low Wall single shots, so yesterday I grabbed our trim Low Wall Hunter in 22 LR, above, for a workout. The Hunter series of these rifles are trimmed down versions of the 1885 for carrying out in the field for a long day of hunting or shooting. We love to shoot them at the range, though, because the weight and balance makes for nice handling and is also just right for my offhand shooting.

Note that, yes, I do use scopes for my offhand shooting and, in fact, I prefer scopes to iron sights for my offhand shooting. (I do keep a couple rifles setup with iron sights, too, to stay sharp with irons.) Getting comfy with scopes and high magnifications when shooting without a rest doesn't happen, overnight, but my scores have been better using a scope for a long time, now. Had the scope set at my preferred 9x on the Nikon Prostaff EFR.

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For ammo, I grabbed a box of CCI CB Shorts. Not ammo I would normally shoot in my beloved Winchester and definitely not ammo I would use at 50 yards, but I figured it would be worth a try at the 30 yard distance of our backyard range.

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Did a few test shots from a rest to check accuracy and, have to say, not bad, so I went right to work for my offhand shooting. I used a 3" bull at 30 yards for my first target, dropping one hot a little low, ruining an otherwise good group. Again, quite surprised that CB ammo could shoot like this at 30 yards.

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I decided to shrink the bull to 2" for the next try, figuring that might make me concentrate a bit better. It helped. Overall group size was similar, but without the one flyer on the first target.

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First thing I did after the session was clean the bore of the 1885 to remove any crud ring from the chamber from shooting Shorts, but I learned something from this session about CBs. Definitely not match ammo, but still very useful for practice at 30 yards. Best of all, with this ammo I can use my favorite 22s and keep them from collecting dust, shooting them in the backyard with even less noise than most of our airguns. Pretty cool. :)
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by Sir Henry » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:28 pm

I’m impressed! Shooting anything more than 4x scope offhand is NOT easy. I’ll be shooting shorts tomorrow at 25 yards with my scoped pump but it’s only a 1-4x.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by North Country Gal » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:44 pm

Thanks. That scope should do really well for you on the Henry. Just the right size.

I've always enjoyed shooting Shorts. Neat little cartridge.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by JEBar » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:58 pm

Sir Henry wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:28 pm
I’m impressed! Shooting anything more than 4x scope offhand is NOT easy.
agree on the impressed .... when I shoot offhand using a scope, I usually try to pull the trigger as the crosshairs pass over the target .. ;)
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by North Country Gal » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:25 pm

JEBar, correct, that's basically the way you do it with a scope, since no one has superhuman steadiness. Those crosshairs are in constant motion. The secret is trigger control. The old saying about good trigger technique being not knowing when the gun goes off does not apply here. You must be in total control of the trigger as to when it breaks and yet you cannot slap the trigger. Still has to be smooth and deliberate.

A great trigger is gold for this kind of shooting. Doesn't have to be a super light match trigger, but it does need to break, cleanly. A trigger with creep can be very frustrating to use. My 1885 I used has a hunting trigger that breaks at about 3 pounds, but it's crisp and predictable.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by Sir Henry » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 pm

My Red Ryder B.B. gun has as odd trigger but I do the same thing with it with open sights. I shot it about 50 times today.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by Sir Henry » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:44 pm

North Country Gal wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:44 pm
Thanks. That scope should do really well for you on the Henry. Just the right size.

I've always enjoyed shooting Shorts. Neat little cartridge.
My Henry can hold 21 shorts. I can load on Sunday and shoot all month.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by North Country Gal » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:53 am

I shot a lot of Shorts when I was a youngster and had a lot of fun with them. Back during the big ammo shortage in the Obama years, we went back to shooting them because that's all we could find at times.

I especially liked Shorts for squirrel hunting, back in the day, since I seldom needed to take a shot past 35 yards. Could tell no difference between the HV Shorts compared to LRs as far as dropping squirrels. In fact, if anything, the Shorts did a better job.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by Sir Henry » Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:33 am

I bought two cases of Aguila HV shorts right after Obama was re-elected and it was the only thing available. I’ve shot just over half and opened the second case about a year ago. I’ve found them to be average accuracy out to 25 yards and then they quickly fall off.
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Re: Short session with the 1885 Low Wall

Post by North Country Gal » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:50 pm

CCI does make actual 22 Short Target ammo. Ewe have some. It it is pretty decent for accuracy, but I think it would be best in a rifle actually chambered for 22 Short, only. Not many of those 22 Short rifles around, these days, but I'm going to see if I can find one for our backyard sooting.
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