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Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 am
by Hatchdog
“ After the annual ice age”
Good one.
I thought that was clay I was seeing in your pic. Nasty stuff but it sure keeps your place green with all that contained moisture.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:22 pm
by Sir Henry
Hatchdog wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 am
“ After the annual ice age”
Good one.
I thought that was clay I was seeing in your pic. Nasty stuff but it sure keeps your place green with all that contained moisture.
I’m amazed how green it keeps the grass. I’ll need at least six inches of gravel on top of it before I pour the concrete. That will keep the moisture away and prevent the concrete from breaking.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:47 pm
by Travlin
Great photos. Those D-7's sure have changed from the ones Container Corp. had in Waycross Ga. in the seventies and eighties. I have two pistons from a seven in my reloading room. Did you know they are four cylinder diesels .
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:54 pm
by dave77
Sir Henry wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:22 pm
Hatchdog wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 am
“ After the annual ice age”
Good one.
I thought that was clay I was seeing in your pic. Nasty stuff but it sure keeps your place green with all that contained moisture.
I’m amazed how green it keeps the grass. I’ll need at least six inches of gravel on top of it before I pour the concrete. That will keep the moisture away and prevent the concrete from breaking.
I can go a couple of weeks between watering the pasture with my clay soil if the grass is not too short when it's in the mid 90s. The school I worked at was pure sand and 3 days in the 90's without water and it was turning brown. It does get watered for 12 hrs while the school grass got an hour every day except the day before it was mowed.
I poured 6 inches of concrete directly on my clay soil for my 20' x 25' garage floor, it did sit for several Summer weeks with no water before the concrete was poured. I did use concrete reinforcing mesh and had fiberglass added to the mix. Made 2 relief cuts sideways and 1 lengthwise, poured it in 2006 and it has no cracks or breaking.
Do you have ground water near the surface that would make a difference? Our well was at least 50' deep before we got any water at all.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:56 pm
by Sir Henry
Travlin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 9:47 pm
Great photos. Those D-7's sure have changed from the ones Container Corp. had in Waycross Ga. in the seventies and eighties. I have two pistons from a seven in my reloading room. Did you know they are four cylinder diesels .
I did not know that but it does run at a low RPM so that makes sense.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:01 am
by Sir Henry
dave77 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:54 pm
Sir Henry wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:22 pm
Hatchdog wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:32 am
“ After the annual ice age”
Good one.
I thought that was clay I was seeing in your pic. Nasty stuff but it sure keeps your place green with all that contained moisture.
I’m amazed how green it keeps the grass. I’ll need at least six inches of gravel on top of it before I pour the concrete. That will keep the moisture away and prevent the concrete from breaking.
I can go a couple of weeks between watering the pasture with my clay soil if the grass is not too short when it's in the mid 90s. The school I worked at was pure sand and 3 days in the 90's without water and it was turning brown. It does get watered for 12 hrs while the school grass got an hour every day except the day before it was mowed.
I poured 6 inches of concrete directly on my clay soil for my 20' x 25' garage floor, it did sit for several Summer weeks with no water before the concrete was poured. I did use concrete reinforcing mesh and had fiberglass added to the mix. Made 2 relief cuts sideways and 1 lengthwise, poured it in 2006 and it has no cracks or breaking.
Do you have ground water near the surface that would make a difference? Our well was at least 50' deep before we got any water at all.
Yes on the surface ground water. It’s not a lot. The main problem is it freezing deep. Open areas the frost goes dow three or four feet while roads can freeze down ten feet or more. I know of one spot on a local road that is two feet higher in the winter.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:37 am
by Travlin
The two D-7 pistons that I have are of 5 1/2" diameter and 8" long with a 2 1/4" hole for the wrist pin. I don't think that something that big would rev too fast. Ring Power rebuilt the D-7 at Waycross and my good friend who worked for Container Corp. gave me the old pistons.
Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:41 am
by Sir Henry
It’s hard to take a good picture of clay. It’s just plain ugly.
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This will have 200 yards of gravel on it.
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The bonus to this project is I also get a 100 yard summer range. The roll bar is about 8 feet high. I’m taking the picture from a lower angle so the berm doesn’t look like it’s 12 feet high.
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I can even store stuff behind it and it will be out of sight.
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The edge of the level platform is above Alice.
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Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:13 pm
by Sir Henry
If it remains in the teens for a few more days and doesn’t snow I’m going to order gravel. I figure 200 yards of 3/4” minus and 200 yards of 5/8” minus should give me a good gravel base on top of the clay.
The driveway leading up to the garage area
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Looking at where the garage will be
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Additional flat area behind the garage
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Looking back at the driveway, RVport and house
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Re: Garage and road project
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 4:00 pm
by North Country Gal
Interesting difference in the soils for us, even though we are only a couple of counties, away. We are sand with ridges of gravel, all outwash from the glacier melting. It's also why we have so many lakes. If you want clay, you have to bring it in.