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What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:39 pm
by Sumaru
Hey all, most of my posts here so far (well...all of them) have been concerned with accuracy issues. I have been going to the range with PMC Bronze 240grain TCSP. In my last post, I'd mentioned that I missed a deer- completely my fault- I didn't verify at 100. Yesterday, I did, and the rifle is capable, but I had a few rounds that didn't hit the target at all-from a bench rest. In an effort to consider any and all variables, just hoping to get some input on what your experiences have been with ammo choices. What does your 44Mag BBS prefer?
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2022 10:49 pm
by Vaquero
Sorry I can't help much, as mine gets a steady diet of my hand loads.
Mostly cast and I just plink with mine out to 55 yds. lol, that is where the picnic table is from the berm in the back yard.
RP
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:29 am
by Conax
My BBS Carbine .44 started out with only so-so accuracy. I noticed fine striations, like faint scratches that ran down the grooves and lands. At 25 yards it would shoot groups offhand about 3". I never thought of it as a target rifle, so I kept on shooting it, and it gradually improved. All I shoot are hot jacketed loads. I think they may be polishing the bore. When it was 'rougher' it got copper fouled but as it smoothed out it does that a lot less. I think I have about 400 rounds through it now, and it could take deer reliably out to 100 if I do my part.
I have shot Hornady 225 grain, Remington 180 grain and Ultramax (?) 240 grain loads. No cast bullets, no reloads.
It's not a target rifle. Yours might be better. Good luck!
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:17 pm
by Sumaru
Conax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:29 am
My BBS Carbine .44 started out with only so-so accuracy. I noticed fine striations, like faint scratches that ran down the grooves and lands. At 25 yards it would shoot groups offhand about 3". I never thought of it as a target rifle, so I kept on shooting it, and it gradually improved. All I shoot are hot jacketed loads. I think they may be polishing the bore. When it was 'rougher' it got copper fouled but as it smoothed out it does that a lot less. I think I have about 400 rounds through it now, and it could take deer reliably out to 100 if I do my part.
I have shot Hornady 225 grain, Remington 180 grain and Ultramax (?) 240 grain loads. No cast bullets, no reloads.
It's not a target rifle. Yours might be better. Good luck!
Thanks, Conax! I'll try the patience route and just try to get her "broken in". I did verify out to 100 yards last weekend, but it seemed as the barrel warmed, things got less predictable. Just wanting to make sure ammo isn't the issue. I can tell you, it hates the "cowboy action" loads. I share the sentiment!
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:53 pm
by Vaquero
Sumaru wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 3:17 pm
Conax wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 4:29 am
My BBS Carbine .44 started out with only so-so accuracy. I noticed fine striations, like faint scratches that ran down the grooves and lands. At 25 yards it would shoot groups offhand about 3". I never thought of it as a target rifle, so I kept on shooting it, and it gradually improved. All I shoot are hot jacketed loads. I think they may be polishing the bore. When it was 'rougher' it got copper fouled but as it smoothed out it does that a lot less. I think I have about 400 rounds through it now, and it could take deer reliably out to 100 if I do my part.
I have shot Hornady 225 grain, Remington 180 grain and Ultramax (?) 240 grain loads. No cast bullets, no reloads.
It's not a target rifle. Yours might be better. Good luck!
Thanks, Conax! I'll try the patience route and just try to get her "broken in". I did verify out to 100 yards last weekend, but it seemed as the barrel warmed, things got less predictable. Just wanting to make sure ammo isn't the issue. I can tell you, it hates the "cowboy action" loads. I share the sentiment!
Yes as the barrel hears up the accuracy suffers, that's with pretty much any rifle.
Even the thick octagons heat up, just not as fast.
When I'm testing news loads I'll shoot 2 or 3, then wait a few minutes before I shoot the next 2 or 3.
RP
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 8:01 am
by Hank44
Factory ammo scarce and expensive. I'm gonna load my own.
Hunting rounds are Hornady 240gr XTP's, but looking to load some plinking rounds too.
I will buy some factory rounds just to compare accuracy after the holiday bills are paid.
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:22 am
by DsGrouse
I've experienced this in both my 357 and 45 colt.
I'll tell you the problem i had. Everything was loose. I kid you not. Get a good set of screw drivers and tighten everything down properly. Most importantly, the scope base if you are using a scope, the forend, and all the action screws.
The groups after that, were cut in half, and with practice, I've cut them down further.
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:03 pm
by leverjc
I think DsGrouse has some good advice, if you are getting decent groups at a 100yds with flyers that do not even hit the target it sounds likely that your scope or mounts could be loose. The scope could be going back into position most of the time and in a different position sometimes.
I had a barrel that would shoot well for about 5 rounds then because of a rough bore would build up copper to where it was shooting 6 inch groups at 50yds after a few more shots. What do your patches look like after you clean it.
Re: What diet are you feeding your 44 Mag big boys?
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:26 pm
by DsGrouse
leverjc wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 7:03 pm
I think DsGrouse has some good advice, if you are getting decent groups at a 100yds with flyers that do not even hit the target it sounds likely that your scope or mounts could be loose. The scope could be going back into position most of the time and in a different position sometimes.
I had a barrel that would shoot well for about 5 rounds then because of a rough bore would build up copper to where it was shooting 6 inch groups at 50yds after a few more shots. What do your patches look like after you clean it.
In my case, the blue locktite did not hold the scope base. I cleaned the areas with a q tip and acetone. Then the set screws with acetone. Afterward, I added a drop to each screw on the scope base and tightened it down to 25 inch pounds. I let it sit overnight and then put the scope on.
Don't discount the forend or the rear stock. both my plastic x stock and wood stocks worked themselves loose. Check them regularly.