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HENRY MODEL H015B-4570 SINGLE SHOT

Post by Czy_Horse » Mon Aug 05, 2019 7:50 pm

What pressures are these rifles safe to reload to? Trapdoor? Lever Action? Modern Rifles?
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Post by BigAl52 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:59 pm

They will take any of the factory ammo produced
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Post by Mags » Tue Aug 06, 2019 11:47 am

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Not a very helpful answer. HenryUSA won't say anything about shooting reloads or provide test to failure data on their firearms. I also don't know of any owner who's done that either. Someone might share how far they've pushed it without detectable ill effects. But no one should be claiming exceeding SAAMI specs is actually "safe". There is risk involved.
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Post by CT_Shooter » Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:41 pm

You may find this article at Chuck Hawks website helpful.

https://www.chuckhawks.com/45-70Govt.htm
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Post by Yornoc3 » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:35 pm

I'm not aware of any rifle manufacturer offering handload data, mostly they say "stick to factory ammunition". Henry appears to be going with the type of enhanced factory loads "safe in a modern Marlin" as a limit, which is where the "strong" factory loads live. That would make sense, since they're basically the same design. Somewhere out there I read about saami proofing pressures, maybe in comparison to European standards, but darned if I can retrieve it from my cluttered mind at the moment :oops: .
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Post by Czy_Horse » Tue Aug 06, 2019 3:06 pm

Yornoc3 wrote:
Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:35 pm
I'm not aware of any rifle manufacturer offering handload data, mostly they say "stick to factory ammunition". Henry appears to be going with the type of enhanced factory loads "safe in a modern Marlin" as a limit, which is where the "strong" factory loads live. That would make sense, since they're basically the same design. Somewhere out there I read about saami proofing pressures, maybe in comparison to European standards, but darned if I can retrieve it from my cluttered mind at the moment :oops: .
I'm reloading my Marlin 1895GBL using Hodgdon data for 'modern lever actions'.
300gn Sierra Bullet, 55gs H4198 powder, Starline brass, CCI primers gives me an average 2154fps, approx. 3000ft lb Muzzle Energy, Hodgdon Data says about 30,000CUP. With a 4 inch target, my MPBR is approx. 146yds.
Which is less chamber pressure than these "strong" factory loads. http://www.garrettcartridges.com/4570.html

I'm going to check it out in the morning.
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Post by Czy_Horse » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:56 pm

WOW, big bore change of plans, another LGS is showing a 1/2 doz. new Marlin 444's in stock. I'm going to be there waiting for the door to open tomorrow morning to get my pick of the litter.
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Post by Yornoc3 » Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:34 pm

Those Garrett loads look to be getting close, at 35,000 CUP, to max for the Marlins, Henry's etc. Interesting to see they do list Henry right there with Marlins. I'd be plenty happy with Czy_Horse's load at 30,000 CUP. Might even be too much of a good thing for me ;) .
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Post by Mags » Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:29 am

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How did that go?
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WOW, big bore change of plans, another LGS is showing a 1/2 doz. new Marlin 444's in stock. I'm going to be there waiting for the door to open tomorrow morning to get my pick of the litter.
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Post by Czy_Horse » Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:21 pm

Happy owner of a new 444 Marlin :D

444 Marlin c/w Vortex Diamondback 2-7*35 BDC
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