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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Ojaileveraction » Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:54 pm

The HRA mag tube closure is one of those money saving details that detracts from the overall finish.
There are many really good mag tube closure designs that have Been out there for years.
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Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:45 pm
metal fatigue makes sense to me and having it take place at weak spot in the outer tube seems like a logical probability .... as to the design, I can see where a solid tube or one welded at strategic spots would be stronger .... I remember when they had to completely redesign the outer tube for the 45-70's .... in thinking back, I believe it was for much the same type of failures .... I suspect that if/when it should be warranted, they would reengineer as needed .... given, ours has most probably fired as many or more than most and I fully intend to keep up the pace .... having a lifetime warranty sure ain't a bad thing ;)
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Mistered » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:53 pm

The HRA mag tube closure is one of those money saving details that detracts from the overall finish.
There are many really good mag tube closure designs that have Been out there for years.
This is true.
It would have been nice to see a 'sleeve' on the bottom of the knurled finger knob that would have covered the end of the stationary tube to the pin recess, not unlike that of say a Marlin 39 load tube.
It would have 'contained' the end of the stationary tube and the cracking most likely would have not occurred.
When I saw the lack of the sleeve on my BBB I was examining at the store (and the 'O' ring) I though this was a bit 'cheesy' but figured I could eventually machine a new finger knob with a sleeve if it became problematic.
Actually the 'O' ring idea was not a bad 'stopgap' but a flat, round spring might have been a better idea as it would keep the tube snug and not allow it to move fore and aft slightly - and, quite frankly, most guns do not have rubber parts.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Mags » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:13 pm

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Depends on the Henry rifle. The BB Steel Carbine has a machined sleeve closure design as does the new side gates and a few others.

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Ojaileveraction wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:54 pm
The HRA mag tube closure is one of those money saving details that detracts from the overall finish.
There are many really good mag tube closure designs that have Been out there for years.
Mistered wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:53 pm
This is true.
It would have been nice to see a 'sleeve' on the bottom of the knurled finger knob that would have covered the end of the stationary tube to the pin recess, not unlike that of say a Marlin 39 load tube.
It would have 'contained' the end of the stationary tube and the cracking most likely would have not occurred.
When I saw the lack of the sleeve on my BBB I was examining at the store (and the 'O' ring) I though this was a bit 'cheesy' but figured I could eventually machine a new finger knob with a sleeve if it became problematic.
Actually the 'O' ring idea was not a bad 'stopgap' but a flat, round spring might have been a better idea as it would keep the tube snug and not allow it to move fore and aft slightly - and, quite frankly, most guns do not have rubber parts.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Ojaileveraction » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:29 pm

Depends on the Henry rifle. The BB Steel Carbine has a machined sleeve closure des
The O ring should be integral not a after thought.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Mags » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:40 pm

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A mice nuts detail. The o-ring on my .30-30 I consider integral. Heck I didn't even know there was an o-ring until it came up in someone else's post a few months after I bought the rifle. Then I had to get the rifle out and take a good look at it to confirm that yup there's an o-ring there.
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Depends on the Henry rifle. The BB Steel Carbine has a machined sleeve closure des
The O ring should be integral not a after thought.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Ojaileveraction » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:23 am

A mice nuts detail.
It's the only detail that makes a difference.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Mags » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:06 am

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The o-ring is more prominent on some Henry models, especially those few where the o-ring is prone to fall off unnoticed. Not so much on others where the o-ring has a good fit and for the most part is nearly cosmetically invisible.
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A mice nuts detail.
It's the only detail that makes a difference.
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Re: Magazine Tube Failure

Post by Ojaileveraction » Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:53 pm

This is what is on a Marlin mod 23 a pump action 22lr. Was my Great-grandfather's.
its unshootable.
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unlocks an outer sleeve that is over the mag tube and the as the outer sleeve moves the spring and followed move with it.
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