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How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
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How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
This may have been posted before but it did not turn up in a Search. A typical .357 Mag rifle is about 5 foot pounds, a .44 Mag is about 11, a .45/70 is 18 to 38. Ouch..... in contrast a .22LR is 0.2 ft lbs.and scrolling all the way to the bottom, the 600 Nitro Express (in a 12 pound rifle) is 154.
Old Brit safari joke: The elephant charges! The hunter raises his double rifle. He fires! They both go down. The winner is the one that gets back up.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
I have had a couple of .45/70 rifles and really enjoyed shooting light Trapdoor loads. The bear rounds, not so much. Well, actually, not at all.
Does anyone know how the HSM .44 Mag 305 Bear Loads would rate out of a Big Boy X? Comparable to the low end .45/70?
Thanks.
John Davies
Spokane WA
Old Brit safari joke: The elephant charges! The hunter raises his double rifle. He fires! They both go down. The winner is the one that gets back up.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
I have had a couple of .45/70 rifles and really enjoyed shooting light Trapdoor loads. The bear rounds, not so much. Well, actually, not at all.
Does anyone know how the HSM .44 Mag 305 Bear Loads would rate out of a Big Boy X? Comparable to the low end .45/70?
Thanks.
John Davies
Spokane WA
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
45 Colt is about my speed for sure....
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That,^^^, or maybe a 30-30. No need to rattle my gage more than that.
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Another reason I like 38-55 so much its really mild even with there full power loads.
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
John E Davies wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:23 pmDoes anyone know how the HSM .44 Mag 305 Bear Loads would rate out of a Big Boy X? Comparable to the low end .45/70?
Thanks.
John Davies
Spokane WA
we have both a Henry 44 Mag and 45-70 .... the lightest recoil from a Cowboy Action level load fired in our 45-70 kicks noticeably harder than a full power hunting load out of our 44 Mag
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
Thanks, that is good to know. I had a JM Marlin 1895 STP (Trapper 16 inch) and, while a lovely, handy carbine, it just hurt me too much.
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
I want an 'all day' shooter - not that I am going to be shooting it non-stop all day but I want something I can pick up shoot a bit, and return to later with no hesitation.
Probably one of the reasons I decided against a Sharps rifle in .45-70.
Probably one of the reasons I decided against a Sharps rifle in .45-70.
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
Technique matters. The technique ( for the really big bores), is to convince somebody else to shoot the thing and make him/her look forward to the experience.
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Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
I actually dont mind shooting my 45-70's but Im not shooting bear loads in them when Im target shooting.
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Don't worry about getting older and still doing stupid stuff. You'll do the stupid stuff as always, only much slower. Hold my beer and watch this.......
H001T .22LR
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H003T PUMP .22LR
BBS .41 MAG
SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
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H003T PUMP .22LR
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SS .357
SIDE GATE 38-55
Re: How hard will it kick? Recoil energy chart
John E Davies wrote: ↑Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:23 pmThis may have been posted before but it did not turn up in a Search. A typical .357 Mag rifle is about 5 foot pounds, a .44 Mag is about 11, a .45/70 is 18 to 38. Ouch..... in contrast a .22LR is 0.2 ft lbs.and scrolling all the way to the bottom, the 600 Nitro Express (in a 12 pound rifle) is 154.
Old Brit safari joke: The elephant charges! The hunter raises his double rifle. He fires! They both go down. The winner is the one that gets back up.
https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
I have had a couple of .45/70 rifles and really enjoyed shooting light Trapdoor loads. The bear rounds, not so much. Well, actually, not at all.
Does anyone know how the HSM .44 Mag 305 Bear Loads would rate out of a Big Boy X? Comparable to the low end .45/70?
Thanks.
John Davies
Spokane WA
I don't mind the 45-70 either... That being said, I did put a different recoil pad on my Marlin (it had the old, hard rubber pad, and it was very uncomfortable to shoot even mid-range loads) If you are pretty committed to shooting .44 mag bear loads and you find them uncomfortable, a different recoil pad might make a big difference. I think that the pad that I put on my Marlin was made by Limbsaver and it really did the trick.
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