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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by deano5150 » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:15 am

Awesome shooting!
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by North Country Gal » Fri Sep 06, 2019 10:28 am

For sure, ammo can make a difference, but, in the end, it's always the shooter. You've proven that one, many times, RR. Thanks for another inspiring range report.
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by RanchRoper » Fri Sep 06, 2019 11:17 am

I have put about 500 rounds downrange in last couple of weeks. Time to reload a bunch. I ordered more 250gr lead so I want to load some beefy'er rounds for the 1885 when it shows up. He originally said Sept so hoping to see it soon. He only brings shipments in 2 or 3 times a year.
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by RanchRoper » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:12 pm

I was thinking about the 2 range reports I posted from the 4th and 5th, and there is one difference that I did not consider. I focused on the ammo; reloads vs factory, and actually the factory was better between those two days. BUT....On the 4th I had the stock cover on my Henry. On the 5th I had taken it off. It's been on for awhile but I took it off just to check if the sun was doing anything to the color of the stock that's not covered vs what is covered. No difference but I am leaving it off because I actually prefer to pack cartridges in my belt. Anyhow, I had a better day shooting with it off the rifle, than I did with it on the rifle. I went back through some of my range reports and there seems to be a pattern of better results without a stock cover. Could it affect someone's shooting that much? Maybe. The crescent fits in tighter without the leather cover, maybe that makes a small difference in accuracy, or just comfort level while shooting which = accuracy. Interesting to think about, but not too long...:)

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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by Ojaileveraction » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:44 pm

Good catch RR.

One thing I was wondering about, Are you saving the right side of the targets for something? :roll:
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:11 am

Ya I am working on that....the pull to the left is an issue.
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by PT7 » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:22 am

RanchRoper wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:11 am
Ya I am working on that....the pull to the left is an issue.
So is this the question: "What component of controlling the trigger stroke is failing?" In the full movement of the rifle trigger, is there both the compression and the return which must be controlled? Most movement of the gun is generated by the interaction between the trigger and the trigger finger, so something must be out of kilter here.

RR, you said "I am working on that." How so? What are you doing, and what are you looking for? I know you mostly just love to shoot and are relaxed/content with that. But it sounds like you'd like to get your excellent off hand shooting results away from the left side of a target, and more consistently on the bull, right? It would be cool to do that, and I'd like to see it happen. At the same time, I'd like to myself learn what to do for such an improvement. I also often leave empty space on the right side of a target.
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by JEBar » Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:30 am

personally, his off hand groups are so consistent that I don't tend to believe there is much (if any) problem with his mechanics .... I suspect that what is needed is a tiny and I do mean tiny adjustment of the rear sight
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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by RanchRoper » Sun Sep 08, 2019 9:52 am

Off to the range today with some of my reloads. Will see what happens. Watched a video on "rifle cant" recently, and how tilting either left or right, even the slightest affects trajectory....I suspect that might be the issue at times shooting off hand or from 1 knee.

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Re: Sept 5th 1860, Winchester Ammo

Post by Ojaileveraction » Sun Sep 08, 2019 11:35 am

JEBar wrote:
Sun Sep 08, 2019 8:30 am
personally, his off hand groups are so consistent that I don't tend to believe there is much (if any) problem with his mechanics .... I suspect that what is needed is a tiny and I do mean tiny adjustment of the rear sight
Yeah.
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