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Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by tractortad » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:44 pm

Finally got a nice enough day here in the valley to sight in our two new Henry singles in 45-70 and 357Mag. We sighted in both rifles at 25 yds.
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First up the 357Mag - took 9 shots/3 groupings/two adjustments to get three in the bull using Aguila 158g JSP - figured we'd quit after that last 3 shot group - definitely close enough for our needs.
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Next up was the 45-70, which we thought should be close because we were ringing a 3" steel plate with it last week. Turned out it was shooting about 2 1/2" low - using a 6 O'clock hold. This time it took ten shots/3 groupings/two adjustments using Winchester 300g JHP to get two out three in the bull - again close enough for us.
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Overall we are happy with results - I didn't think we could even do this well with the stock iron sights, but some odd reason, I can see these single sights much better than any of the buckhorns on our Henry lever guns. We still plan on trying to find a good peep/Lyman Globe setup to go on these rifles to make them even easier to shoot for us old eye guys...

These rifles continue to be a dream to shoot. They are well balanced, easy to shoulder, and are just plain fun to use. They are quickly becoming some of our favorite big-bore plinkers....
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by BigAl52 » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:07 pm

Looks good there Tad. Ive spotted a 30-30 that I would like to have just dont know if I need another caliber. Ive also been going back and forth with a 44 mag. I already have a 44 mag handguns so it would make more sense but the 30-30 is sure tempting.
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by Mags » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:47 pm

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ahhh, go with the tempting! A .30-30 is a great shooter. Not that I'm biased or something.
BigAl52 wrote:Looks good there Tad. Ive spotted a 30-30 that I would like to have just dont know if I need another caliber. Ive also been going back and forth with a 44 mag. I already have a 44 mag handguns so it would make more sense but the 30-30 is sure tempting.
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by tractortad » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:36 am

You can't have too many singles, Al - get both.
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by ESquared » Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:00 am

Great looking targets, Tad, and very nice with the factory sights. Interesting that they're somehow working better for you than the buckhorns on the lever actions. Wonder why?

Always look forward to you putting together a Skinner/Lyman pair, so please keep us posted on that, especially the LoPro II.
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by JEBar » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:38 am

tractortad wrote:These rifles continue to be a dream to shoot. They are well balanced, easy to shoulder, and are just plain fun to use. They are quickly becoming some of our favorite big-bore plinkers....
I've never heard of a 45-70 as being just plain fun to use .. :? .. I'd appreciate hearing your impressions and comparisons with others you have fired
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:53 am

Jim
I think maybe you are associating 45-70 with shoulder pounding recoil. While I understand what you are saying some of us have taken the 45-70 and downloaded it to more comfortable shooting levels. Something I know you have mentioned you were working on. I think I read where you made comments of not having to much of a desire to own one but were still maybe curios about one. I to at one time didnt think I would really want one but decided to try one when the 357 came out. Now that I have tried one another one is tempting me again like they did Tad. The simplistic nature of these single shots are kind of nice. Easy to load light weight and they shoulder very well. Clean up is also a breeze and I agree with Tad its one of my favorites to take to the range. Simple is good and in this case alot of fun. Just go getcha one Jim you will like it.
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by JEBar » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:11 pm

BigAl52 wrote:Jim
I think maybe you are associating 45-70 with should pounding recoil. While I understand what you are saying some of us have taken the 45-70 and downloaded it to more comfortable shooting levels. Something I know you have mentioned you were working on. I think I read where you made comments of not having to much of a desire to own one but were still maybe curios about one. I to at one time didnt think I would really want one but decided to try one when the 357 came out. Now that I have tried one another one is tempting me again like they did Tad. The simplistic nature of these single shots are kind of nice. Easy to load light weight and they shoulder very well. Clean up is also a breeze and I agree with Tad its one of my favorites to take to the range. Simple is good and in this case alot of fun. Just go getcha one Jim you will like it.
in reading his report, I thought he was using factory Winchester 300 gr JHP .... I've never fired any of them but doubt they would be reduced recoil loads .... I am trying to come up with a Cowboy Action load for our 45-70 but is a very slow process .... with our loading equipment in NC, and us spending the winter in Texas, about all I can do is read and try to learn from all the related info I can find .... the very first firearm I ever bought for myself was a 12 ga H&R Topper with a 32" barrel and full choke .... kicked like a mule .... since then the only single shots I've had any interest in have been muzzle loaders, don't anticipate that changing .... simply a matter of personal preference .... much the same as AR type rifles, haven't ever owned one and I would be very surprised if I ever purchase one .... have never owned one nor do I anticipate ever doing so .... another one of my quirks is, outside of shotguns, I don't own or intend to purchase more than one rifle or handgun in the same caliber .... one of the things I really enjoy about this forum is the diversity of firearms discussed .... that is as close to personal experience I anticipate having with many of them
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by BigAl52 » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:29 pm

They make one in thurty thurty Jim has ur name all over it. :lol:
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Re: Sighting a couple of Singles

Post by tractortad » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:43 pm

JEBar wrote:
tractortad wrote:These rifles continue to be a dream to shoot. They are well balanced, easy to shoulder, and are just plain fun to use. They are quickly becoming some of our favorite big-bore plinkers....
I've never heard of a 45-70 as being just plain fun to use .. :? .. I'd appreciate hearing your impressions and comparisons with others you have fired
The Henry 45-70 is just plain fun to use (for us, anyway) - we like loading those big cartridges and seeing the steel targets wrap around the support bar when you hit the gongs or watching the milk jugs explode when one of those 300g JHP lands. Al nailed it when he talked about how these rifles are simple, easy to shoot, and easy to clean - all for less than $400. We usually shoot Win 300g factory 45-70 and the recoil just isn't a factor for us - the pad on these blued steel singles works very well - then again maybe my sons and I are recoil junkies - we really like the big bore stuff. The singles also make you slow down your shooting and kind of "enjoy the shot" - if that makes any sense. We have 2 Henrys, 2 Marlins, 2 Winchesters, and 1 H&R Buffalo Classic in our 45-70 collection. I'd say the Henry Single is the easiest to shoot among all of them - it doesn't have the lowest felt recoil(probably middle of the pack), but it is the easiest to shoulder and hold on target.
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