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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by PJM » Thu Jan 09, 2020 8:53 pm

I am thinking this is a "two hander" ! My son bought that .50 CVA in line pistol last year and it is a hoot to shoot. Good luck with it.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Jan 09, 2020 10:13 pm

Havent shot it yet PJM but next time I get the chance to make some smoke it will go with me. Weather here right now is to cold and Im not as tough as that cowboy from Alberta is.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by Vaquero » Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:33 am

Hey Al what grain ball and powder?
I have a 54 cal Renegade, never shot a 54 Pistola. ;)

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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by BigAl52 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:02 am

I use a .530 Hornady ball Randy. I think there around 230 gr. Powder I will use 3f Swiss probably about 30 gr of it. Need to play with the powder charge.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by PT7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:49 am

BigAl52 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:02 am
I use a .530 Hornady ball ... around 230 gr.

Found a shortcut formula for calculating the weight of a RB at http://home.insightbb.com/~bspen/math.html, "The Mathematical Shooter" article:

Weight = 1502.6 x (Diameter x Diameter x Diameter)

As an example, here is the calc of Al's .530 RB.
W = 1502.6 × (0.530 x 0.530 x 0.530) = 223.7025802gr

I use .490 RB for my Trapper:
W = 1502.6 × (0.490 x 0.490 x 0.490) = 176.7793874gr

Lots of math info available in the article for shooters; numbers definitely are basic to the sport.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by BigAl52 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:49 am

Thats way to much math for me PT around 230 sounds close enough.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by PT7 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:02 am

Agreed, Al....way too much! Yet was cool to find a shortcut. Your "around 230 sounds close enough" is what I've read in individual articles, and what more is needed? Your Kentucky shoots a .530 which won't change. RB math is done. :)

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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by JEBar » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:08 am

BigAl52 wrote:
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:02 am
I use a .530 Hornady ball Randy. I think there around 230 gr. Powder I will use 3f Swiss probably about 30 gr of it. Need to play with the powder charge.

AL .... in our 50 cal TC Hawkin I used standard round balls pushed by FFF Blackpowder .... its been so many years since I fired it that I have no clue as to the powder charge used .... is there a source for such info .. :?:
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by BigAl52 » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:23 am

Jim
Theres no real chart for that, that I am aware of. TC did have some recommendation starting loads in the owners manuals. I typically start with a 2f charge of Swiss at 60 grains and they play with it from there to check accuracy. If I were to use 3f in a 50 which alot of people do I would back off of that by 10 grains and make my starting load 50 grains. Some shoot less some shoot more than that depending on distance and accuracy. I havent used alot of 3f in my rifles although alot of people do that to save buying 2 different powders. Swiss is also hotter and cleaner than the Goex powder.
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Re: New Kentucky 54 Cal Pistol

Post by JEBar » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:59 am

info appreciated .... I seem to remember an old standard that said up to twice the caliber .... for 50 caliber, 90 to 100 grains .... but don't have a clue if that is a solid recommendation or not .... all I've ever used is FFF black powder .... no experience whatsoever with FF or Pyrodex .... prior to reading your post I'd never heard of Swiss powder, I have no clue what it is
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