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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by dave77 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:13 pm

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It would be interesting to see a photo of your RB casting equipment, Dave. Is that doable? I'm curious as to what you used. And maybe a brief explanation about the tools? TIA. I see that MrEd noted some of the equipment he had used, too. Maybe between his list and your photo I'll get an idea on initial RB casting.

One fellow from the ML forum I write on answered my same inquiry, and said it cost him "probably less than $100 to get started...used a small cast iron pot (bought new), ladle, mold and old naphtha stove." What I need to follow up on is that he said this was to "get started." Wonder what else was/is needed?

I did some playing around with numbers for the 1000 lbs of pure lead you all purchased. I might be doing this incorrectly, but the results seem reasonable. 1000 lbs = 453,592 grams. One .490 RB is 177 grams. So I did the division resulting in a little more than 2550 cast RBs. Sound about right? I now have just over 300 RBs in stock to start out the next year, and will see how long it takes to shoot those. Anyway, I hope I got the estimated numbers close and don't end up too :oops: ! Thanks for your comments.

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I still have all my round ball casting equipment...Was doing a lot of shooting back then so I went in with a couple of friends on about a 1000 lbs of pure lead
I'll dig my stuff out and get a photo taken today or tomorrow.

Your figure of 2550 balls in a 1000 lbs seemed low. Looked up the weight of a 50 cal. rd. ball and it's 177 grains instead of grams. 1000lbs.= 7,000,000 grains so 39,548 50 cal. balls is 1000 lbs. so my share of 333 lbs is 13,182 50 cal. rds. Since my rifle and pistol are both 45 cal. it would be 16,317 rds. That's a lot of BP shooting.That's 266 hours of shooting a round every minute. :o
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Mistered » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:50 pm

Your figure of 2550 balls in a 1000 lbs seemed low.
I originally overlooked the post but yes it was low And Dave is correct.

Bullets/balls are scaled in GRAINS not GRAMS - big difference!
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Mistered » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:17 pm

Here is all I have left.
My ancient SAECO (Santa Anita Engineering Co.) lead pot, an ingot mold, a couple ladles, a hunk of lead and the lead pot insert liner.
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by PT7 » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:36 pm

I definitely did the oops :oops: calc, didn't I? Hmm, how could one mix up Gr versus Gm?
Thanks to both for clarifying.

Dave, your correct total is an incredibly large number of RBs.
And to shoot one ML round/minute would be some feat :!: :lol: :!:

Appreciate your casting equipment photo, MrEd. Interesting tools. I think I'll do some reading about RB casting.

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Dave77 wrote:Your figure of 2550 balls in a 1000 lbs seemed low.
Mistered wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:50 pm
I originally overlooked the post but yes it was low And Dave is correct.
Bullets/balls are scaled in GRAINS not GRAMS - big difference!
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Mistered » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:41 pm

I think I'll do some reading about RB casting.
You''ll find there is not much to it really.

A couple minor 'technical' aspects to it but pretty dang simple.
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Vaquero » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:40 pm

I cast few different caliber bullets for handguns and rifles.
Just recently picked a mold for my .54 cal. Renegade.
No round ball molds... Yet. :roll:
And I did just score a 32 cal. CVA squirrel rifle, I may buy a mold for it. ;)

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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Mistered » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:56 pm

Just recently picked a mold for my .54 cal. Renegade.
What mold did you pick up?

Ironically I AM 'kind of' thinking of starting to cast .54s for my OWN Renegade (the one I restored) considering Hornady DROPPED their 'Great Plains' bullets in .54 that shot excellently out of my Renegade!!
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by JEBar » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:16 pm

dave77 wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:13 pm
Your figure of 2550 balls in a 1000 lbs seemed low. Looked up the weight of a 50 cal. rd. ball and it's 177 grains instead of grams. 1000lbs.= 7,000,000 grains so 39,548 50 cal. balls is 1000 lbs. so my share of 333 lbs is 13,182 50 cal. rds. Since my rifle and pistol are both 45 cal. it would be 16,317 rds. That's a lot of BP shooting.That's 266 hours of shooting a round every minute. :o
that's a bunch of round balls .... my sons and I haven't ever fired anything but 490 round balls out of our 50's .... for several years we deer hunted with them and were also members of a black powder club that held monthly shoots .... enjoyed it
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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Vaquero » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:42 pm

Mistered wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:56 pm
Just recently picked a mold for my .54 cal. Renegade.
What mold did you pick up?

Ironically I AM 'kind of' thinking of starting to cast .54s for my OWN Renegade (the one I restored) considering Hornady DROPPED their 'Great Plains' bullets in .54 that shot excellently out of my Renegade!!
Ed, it's a 380 gr conical, it's a Lee mold.
I made a dozen, but I haven't tried any of them yet.
Deer season is in the way at the moment. :o :roll: :lol:

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Re: Do round ball recall warnings happen?

Post by Mistered » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:49 pm

I made a dozen, but I haven't tried any of them yet.
Well get out and give 'em a try and let me know how they shoot!
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