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Sight adjustment

Post by markiver54 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:07 pm

The front sight on my new SGC definitely needs to be drifted. Don't have a brass punch, so tried with an oak dowel. Would not budge. Probably because of the light weight gun vise I have resulting in inadequate resistance when hitting the dowel. Started using a rawhide hammer just to be safe. No luck, then a regular hammer, again no luck. I'm sure all because of movement of the vise. Thought the dovetail would move more easily. Sure don't want to mar up a new rifle. How do you people secure yours safely enough to get that sight to drift? Don't want to have to go to the local gunsmith for what I think should be a simple task. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by North Country Gal » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:29 pm

Do get a brass punch. An oak dowel will absorb too much of the energy from your hammer. In a pinch, you can put a brass shell casing over a regular punch, but the brass punch is the way to go. Skinners will have one for you. While you're at it, getting a triangular file, too, for trimming dovetail sights when you change front or rear sights.
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by tractortad » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:50 pm

You need a good bench block and a solid bench to rest the muzzle on while drifting the sight. If you don't have a good bench block you can use a roll of black electrician's tape on its side. NCG's suggestion of using a shell casing over a regular punch is good idea - I've used a spent 22 casing on a regular steel punch to drift sights before I got a good brass punch from Skinner. Sometimes you have to really hit it hard to get some first movement on those front sights, but eventually they move...
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by Mags » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:58 pm

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I'd have the rifle laying on it's side on top of a solid work bench with an appropriate thickness slab of wood to uniformly support the length of the barrel. Then punch as NCG shared.
markiver54 wrote:The front sight on my new SGC definitely needs to be drifted. Don't have a brass punch, so tried with an oak dowel. Would not budge. Probably because of the light weight gun vise I have resulting in inadequate resistance when hitting the dowel. Started using a rawhide hammer just to be safe. No luck, then a regular hammer, again no luck. I'm sure all because of movement of the vise. Thought the dovetail would move more easily. Sure don't want to mar up a new rifle. How do you people secure yours safely enough to get that sight to drift? Don't want to have to go to the local gunsmith for what I think should be a simple task. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by PT7 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:59 pm

If a dovetail is particularly hard to drift, I've used a couple of drops of RemOil on it. Seems to help it move easier...
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by markiver54 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:03 pm

Have been off line all day. Tab ran out of gas, had to fill-r-up. Thank you all so much for the very valuable advise. I'm going to apply methods learned here tomorrow. Just never " drifted " a sight before. Only mechanical, rear sights for windage and elevation. Even though I have shot off and on for over 50 years, I'm totally guilty of pretty much overlooking too many details. Great to have support. Big thanks to ALL!!
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by markiver54 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:10 pm

North Country Gal wrote:Do get a brass punch. An oak dowel will absorb too much of the energy from your hammer. In a pinch, you can put a brass shell casing over a regular punch, but the brass punch is the way to go. Skinners will have one for you. While you're at it, getting a triangular file, too, for trimming dovetail sights when you change front or rear sights.
Will do NCG, punch and file both. Is the angle of the dovetail and a standard triangular file the same? I think I have a small one out in the shop. Then all I need is the punch! Also, will lightly filing hurt anything? ( blueing, finish, promote rust etc.? )
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by markiver54 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:13 pm

PT7 wrote:If a dovetail is particularly hard to drift, I've used a couple of drops of RemOil on it. Seems to help it move easier...
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Will try the Rem Oil if needed. I'm gonna move that sucker one way or another. :lol:
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by markiver54 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:17 pm

tractortad wrote:You need a good bench block and a solid bench to rest the muzzle on while drifting the sight. If you don't have a good bench block you can use a roll of black electrician's tape on its side. NCG's suggestion of using a shell casing over a regular punch is good idea - I've used a spent 22 casing on a regular steel punch to drift sights before I got a good brass punch from Skinner. Sometimes you have to really hit it hard to get some first movement on those front sights, but eventually they move...
Thank you Tractotad. A real good first tap/hit may just be the answer along with all other techniques offered so far. :)
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Re: Sight adjustment

Post by Flinch » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:43 am

When drifting sights by pushing or tapping them, I place a piece or two of blue masking tape over the work I am going to contact with the sight tool or punch. As a matter of fact, I use blue masking tape to protect any finished metal work around the area where I am going to drive pins in our out.
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