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Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by ESquared » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:20 am

The 2-piece mounts that Skinner makes for (and Henry ships with) the scoped version of the Long Ranger is very sleek, and it got me thinking about a potential 2-piece equivalent for Big Boys.

I found the following "Weaver Mounts" table online

http://www.weaveroptics.com/mountcharts/

And it shows part no. 48492 as a compatible 2-piece mount, along with the 1-piece Part # 63B.

Further digging shows that this two piece mount is apparently no longer manufactured, as it doesn't appear to be in the current line-up on Weaver's sight. Not on Ebay, not on Amazon, MIdway, Brownell's, etc. Seems to truly be discontinued.

However, I may have found a couple of them at my local Wally World for about $7.50 per set:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Weaver-Marli ... e/16879799

It's the right part #, but the packaging is specific to a Marlin 336.

So the questions are:
Is a Marlin 336 hole pattern the same as a Big Boy?
Has anyone ever tried this Weaver Part # on a Big Boy?
Is the 63B even truly compatible (and about $8) vs. the $34 (incl shipping) that HPride offers?

As always, thanks in advance.
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by Yornoc3 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:12 am

I'm confident that the Marlin 336 and Henry H009 (30-30) and H0010 (45-70) are the same, but I don't think that applies to the Big Boy. The Leupold standard base Henry offers for the H009 and H0010 is marked Marlin 336 on the packaging. Henry pride shows different mounts for H009-0010 rifles than for Big Boys, but that doesn't really answer the question on those Weaver 2 piece mounts for sure.
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by ESquared » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:02 pm

Yornoc3 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:12 am
I'm confident that the Marlin 336 and Henry H009 (30-30) and H0010 (45-70) are the same, but I don't think that applies to the Big Boy. The Leupold standard base Henry offers for the H009 and H0010 is marked Marlin 336 on the packaging. Henry pride shows different mounts for H009-0010 rifles than for Big Boys, but that doesn't really answer the question on those Weaver 2 piece mounts for sure.
You're right, Yornoc, it's a but murky. The same Weaver "compatibility chart" I've linked above also shows the 63B as compatible with all three - the 30-30, 47-70 and Big Boys - and I've found posts here on the forum from owners who have said the 63B works great on their Big Boys, but also some that said the front hole had to be "modified" a bit to line up with the hole in the BB receiver.

The two-piece is a different situation in that the front piece's hole will line up no problem, BUT there's only one hole in the forward position of the receiver. So the issue potentially becomes the stability/suitability of a single screw holding the front section of a 2-piece mount. Seems like if it were secured well (a little Blue Loc-Tite) and checked every so often, it ought to be okay.

For 7 bucks, it's worth a try!
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by Mags » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:07 pm

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The pair/hole spacing in the Weaver/63B is 0.5". What is the tapped hole spacing on your Big Boy?
ESquared wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:20 am
The 2-piece mounts that Skinner makes for (and Henry ships with) the scoped version of the Long Ranger is very sleek, and it got me thinking about a potential 2-piece equivalent for Big Boys.

I found the following "Weaver Mounts" table online

http://www.weaveroptics.com/mountcharts/

And it shows part no. 48492 as a compatible 2-piece mount, along with the 1-piece Part # 63B.

Further digging shows that this two piece mount is apparently no longer manufactured, as it doesn't appear to be in the current line-up on Weaver's sight. Not on Ebay, not on Amazon, MIdway, Brownell's, etc. Seems to truly be discontinued.

However, I may have found a couple of them at my local Wally World for about $7.50 per set:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Weaver-Marli ... e/16879799

It's the right part #, but the packaging is specific to a Marlin 336.

So the questions are:
Is a Marlin 336 hole pattern the same as a Big Boy?
Has anyone ever tried this Weaver Part # on a Big Boy?
Is the 63B even truly compatible (and about $8) vs. the $34 (incl shipping) that HPride offers?

As always, thanks in advance.
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by ESquared » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:16 pm

I knew I'd read about it here recently!

Here's the thread about the "Winged" Skinner sight that shares the hole spacing with the Marlin 336, but hangs over the rear of the receiver, etc., but the point is that the rear hole spacing of the 336 and the BB series are the same.

http://henryrifleforums.com/viewtopic.p ... +336+mount
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by ESquared » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:22 pm

Here's what looks like another option. I know nothing about Redfield bases, but if the rear holes line up, what could go wrong? A $5 Risk.

https://www.amazon.com/Redfield-Mount-M ... 70&sr=8-17
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by Yornoc3 » Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:40 pm

Just thinking on the keyboard, but if the holes matched up on the bases, having only one screw in the forward base shouldn't be a problem. The rings will hold everything in alignment, you can square everything up with a scope mounting bar prior to installing the scope, and everything should be fine with the recoil level you'll have. I'd think about using some stout steel rings, like Warne or the new version of Weaver Grand Slam, just in case ;) . Most of those "standard" one piece Leupold/Redfield/Burris bases have only three mounting screws, too.
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by ESquared » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:12 pm

Yornoc3 wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:40 pm
Just thinking on the keyboard, but if the holes matched up on the bases, having only one screw in the forward base shouldn't be a problem. The rings will hold everything in alignment, you can square everything up with a scope mounting bar prior to installing the scope, and everything should be fine with the recoil level you'll have. I'd think about using some stout steel rings, like Warne or the new version of Weaver Grand Slam, just in case ;) . Most of those "standard" one piece Leupold/Redfield/Burris bases have only three mounting screws, too.
I've taken the plunge and will see how it all works out. Will add to this thread once I get everything in-house and will take some pics of the install.
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by Mags » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:28 pm

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With the grove down the middle of the Redfield you also have the option of shooting using the iron sights without removing the bases.
ESquared wrote:
Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:22 pm
Here's what looks like another option. I know nothing about Redfield bases, but if the rear holes line up, what could go wrong? A $5 Risk.

https://www.amazon.com/Redfield-Mount-M ... 70&sr=8-17
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Re: Weaver 2-Piece Mount

Post by Rifletom » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:41 pm

Evan, I was planning to try and answer earlier, but, going to Church, breakfast etc, a little late. Good to see our Henry brethren came in with some helpful posts. The thread about the "Winged" Skinner rear sight was what I was going to refer to. Good call. I'll be waitng for your results. Ought to be good. Actually, thinking those Weaver bases might be a very good, inexpensive alternative.
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