Actually, it probably matters because most rimfire scopes (i.e.Leupolds) usually have their parallax set at 50-60 yds vice 100 yds for centerfire models. Additionally, their reticules may also be be set up for rimfire bullet drops.ESquared wrote:Mags wrote:.
do you know why it matters?
Short answer is "No."
My assumption is that it has to do with construction and engineered-in ability to withstand recoil forces in centerfire vs. rimfire.
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I learn something new every day around here! Thanks for that, fellers!
So, no credence to the notion that the centerfire models are somehow "beefier" to absorb the recoil better than the rimfire versions?
So, no credence to the notion that the centerfire models are somehow "beefier" to absorb the recoil better than the rimfire versions?
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not in reputable brands.
if it was a problem the manufacturer would have disclaimers
not in reputable brands.
if it was a problem the manufacturer would have disclaimers
ESquared wrote:I learn something new every day around here! Thanks for that, fellers!
So, no credence to the notion that the centerfire models are somehow "beefier" to absorb the recoil better than the rimfire versions?
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I have used rimfire scopes on bigger rifles. Had one on a .30-30 years ago and it worked just fine. Only thing is you need to change out the rings from dove tail to whatever mount you have.
You have to zero in a scope to what distance you like anyway. I use a rimfire scope out to 125 yards all the time.
You have to zero in a scope to what distance you like anyway. I use a rimfire scope out to 125 yards all the time.
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Yep and that is the reason my 327, 357 & 45/70 all wear rimfire scopes, I feel the compact size and shorter parallax setting is ideal on levers that see use at shorter ranges.Mags wrote:parallax setting. rimfire scope usually set around 50-60yds.
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Vortex cross fire= China made Vortex Diamond back= Philippines made Weaver= Japan made Leupold= USA made
I have looked at them all at my LGS. The Vortex has about equal glass as the others except maybe less at the outer edges. The Vortex has the fast focus eye piece that when mounted you can make the reticle move around when with moving the focus ring side to side or up and down. That has been the number on complaint I have heard about Vortex. Supposed to have a great warranty. I have a friend who bought the highest priced Vortex they sell. Made in the Philippines and has been sent back twice for the fast focus eye piece issues. We lived with the lock ring for years on our scopes with no problems. When did you have to change the focus on your scope to shoot a deer or varmint once you adjust it to your eyes? I can honestly say "never." I have scopes I have never reset the focus after setting it when I bought it.
Fast focus usually means a larger ocular and some times larger by quite a bit and has to be mounted higher on some rifles to clear the bolt. The Weaver and the Leupold have the old tried and true locking ring eye piece with a smaller ocular than the Vortex and others with the fast focus. Want to see very large eye pieces on scopes check out some of the offerings from Bushnell. I think the new Freedom series Leupolds are the best buy right now and the Leupold warranty speaks for its self. Probably not much more than the Vortex and made in the good old USA. I just can'y lay down the money for the Vortex with the other two options I listed here. I have looked a lot at Vortex and don't want to gamble on one and I am not a Leupold snob and I do have several different brands of scopes on my rifles. If you are set on buying a Vortex best you move up to the Diamondback series to stay clear of China built models.
I have looked at them all at my LGS. The Vortex has about equal glass as the others except maybe less at the outer edges. The Vortex has the fast focus eye piece that when mounted you can make the reticle move around when with moving the focus ring side to side or up and down. That has been the number on complaint I have heard about Vortex. Supposed to have a great warranty. I have a friend who bought the highest priced Vortex they sell. Made in the Philippines and has been sent back twice for the fast focus eye piece issues. We lived with the lock ring for years on our scopes with no problems. When did you have to change the focus on your scope to shoot a deer or varmint once you adjust it to your eyes? I can honestly say "never." I have scopes I have never reset the focus after setting it when I bought it.
Fast focus usually means a larger ocular and some times larger by quite a bit and has to be mounted higher on some rifles to clear the bolt. The Weaver and the Leupold have the old tried and true locking ring eye piece with a smaller ocular than the Vortex and others with the fast focus. Want to see very large eye pieces on scopes check out some of the offerings from Bushnell. I think the new Freedom series Leupolds are the best buy right now and the Leupold warranty speaks for its self. Probably not much more than the Vortex and made in the good old USA. I just can'y lay down the money for the Vortex with the other two options I listed here. I have looked a lot at Vortex and don't want to gamble on one and I am not a Leupold snob and I do have several different brands of scopes on my rifles. If you are set on buying a Vortex best you move up to the Diamondback series to stay clear of China built models.
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My preference is to buy USA, too. Friends have Vortex scopes. Their opinion and the sale price at the time were tipping criteria for me in purchase of the Strike Eagle (China). So far it has been an excellent performing scope. Should anything ever go wrong with it, it has the same type of warranty as my Henry. Very few reviews of them being sent back for warranty. Most of those that did said warranty turn around time was good. I think we all are aware that a lot products built in China are krap. However not everything built there is. Someone buying a Vortex scope can expect a quality product regardless of COO.
My preference is to buy USA, too. Friends have Vortex scopes. Their opinion and the sale price at the time were tipping criteria for me in purchase of the Strike Eagle (China). So far it has been an excellent performing scope. Should anything ever go wrong with it, it has the same type of warranty as my Henry. Very few reviews of them being sent back for warranty. Most of those that did said warranty turn around time was good. I think we all are aware that a lot products built in China are krap. However not everything built there is. Someone buying a Vortex scope can expect a quality product regardless of COO.
bandit1250 wrote:... If you are set on buying a Vortex best you move up to the Diamondback series to stay clear of China built models.
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We have a Vortex Diamondback 2-7X35 Rimfire on one of our 22 rifles and a couple of Leupold VX Freedom 3-9X40 Rimfires mounted on two others - I think the Leupold is a better option - only slightly more $ for a much better scope. I agree with Bandit in that the Leupold VX Freedom series are probably some of the best scopes for the price ($180-$200) available right now.
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Winchester 9422,1873,1885,1886,1892
Marlin 39A,AS,CL,D,M,Mountie,TDS,1897CB,Texan,1894CB,1895CBA,1895SBL
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Henry H001TLP,H001TLB,H003T,H004,H006R,H006M,H012R,H012AW,H012MRCC,H010CC,H015-357,H015-44,H015-4570
Winchester 9422,1873,1885,1886,1892
Marlin 39A,AS,CL,D,M,Mountie,TDS,1897CB,Texan,1894CB,1895CBA,1895SBL
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I've been extremely pleased with the two Leupold VX Freedom scopes I've bought so far. I put the 1.5-4X20 on my 357 and the 4-12X40 on my Long Ranger. I have no basis for comparison, as these are the first scopes I've ever owned, but I've spent a lot of time (and $$) with Nikon camera optics, and the Leo products seem very nice, especially for the price points.
Not to say the Vortex isn't mighty fine, too, as they get great reviews and have a broad and deep product lineup as well.
Such variety and choice fuels our first-world problems, huh?
Not to say the Vortex isn't mighty fine, too, as they get great reviews and have a broad and deep product lineup as well.
Such variety and choice fuels our first-world problems, huh?
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I put a VX-Freedom on my 327 but the last 3 scope purchases before it have all been Sightron.
They are probably the best kept secret in scopes, great value for money and the entry level SI's far better than you would expect for the $.
IMHO the VX-Freedom is Leupolds response to better scopes at a cheaper price than their old VX-1 & 2 series from the likes of Sightron and others.
They are probably the best kept secret in scopes, great value for money and the entry level SI's far better than you would expect for the $.
IMHO the VX-Freedom is Leupolds response to better scopes at a cheaper price than their old VX-1 & 2 series from the likes of Sightron and others.
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