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Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
I use globe sights almost exclusively on my air rifles that are setup with iron sights, using either a peep or open sight for the rear sight. The interchangeable inserts give you all kinds of options for the front sight, everything from a blade, aperture and so on. You get just about any kind of front sight you want, just by changing the insert. The only issue with going with a globe front is that globe front sights usually sit higher off the barrel than what usually comes for a factory front sight, so you may need a rear peep sight with plenty of elevation adjustment. Haven't tried the peep/globe setup on a Henry, but I'm sure others have and will give you all the help you need on that one.
For precision target work, I prefer a blade for its sharper outline against the target, compared to a fiber optic. That sharp top on a blade allows for a more precise hold. The top of fiber optic sights tend to be a little less sharp. On the other hand, for hunting back in the timber, a fiber optic sight's visibility is awesome in those lowlight hunting periods. They really do work. I don't hunt, anymore, but have specifically tested them with other sights in lowlight periods, just out of curiosity.
For precision target work, I prefer a blade for its sharper outline against the target, compared to a fiber optic. That sharp top on a blade allows for a more precise hold. The top of fiber optic sights tend to be a little less sharp. On the other hand, for hunting back in the timber, a fiber optic sight's visibility is awesome in those lowlight hunting periods. They really do work. I don't hunt, anymore, but have specifically tested them with other sights in lowlight periods, just out of curiosity.
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
Punched out the Skinner fiber optic, punched in the Skinner front blade sight. Sits high (and not so aesthetically pleasing), but affords the opportunity to file it down, as necessary. The goal is to get POI a bit higher and with the fiber optic (seeming the same size as factory, there was no room to lower the Skinner Express sight for adequate adjustment, so that's why I am now putting in the taller sight). I used Skinner's three sided file with one side smoothed so that only the sloped part of the dove tail is removed. The file works well. I then put on Skinner's blueing and after a couple of minutes, some lubricating oil, which shined up the otherwise fairly flat black sight. On the second image from top you can see some brass marring on the barrel--I did tape it off with duct tape, but still it broke through. Ballistol will hopefully take it off or I'll use a copper solvent. Didn't see it with the naked eye. BTW, I painted the front of the sight white, it doesn't come that way.
This process of substituting sights is a bit tedious; hopefully, it will be worth it! Next step--bore sighting. I used a neighbor's bore sight last time, recommendations for purchase of my own?
This process of substituting sights is a bit tedious; hopefully, it will be worth it! Next step--bore sighting. I used a neighbor's bore sight last time, recommendations for purchase of my own?
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Henry Steel Carbine 357/38; Skinner Receiver Peep Sight
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
Thank you. I may try the Lyman Globe if the blade sight doesn't work.North Country Gal wrote:I use globe sights almost exclusively on my air rifles that are setup with iron sights, using either a peep or open sight for the rear sight. The interchangeable inserts give you all kinds of options for the front sight, everything from a blade, aperture and so on. You get just about any kind of front sight you want, just by changing the insert. The only issue with going with a globe front is that globe front sights usually sit higher off the barrel than what usually comes for a factory front sight, so you may need a rear peep sight with plenty of elevation adjustment. Haven't tried the peep/globe setup on a Henry, but I'm sure others have and will give you all the help you need on that one.
For precision target work, I prefer a blade for its sharper outline against the target, compared to a fiber optic. That sharp top on a blade allows for a more precise hold. The top of fiber optic sights tend to be a little less sharp. On the other hand, for hunting back in the timber, a fiber optic sight's visibility is awesome in those lowlight hunting periods. They really do work. I don't hunt, anymore, but have specifically tested them with other sights in lowlight periods, just out of curiosity.
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Henry Steel Carbine 357/38; Skinner Receiver Peep Sight
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As mentioned above, I swapped the fiber optic for the Skinner blade front sight and painted the front white.
At 25 yards this is what I shot with my first seven rounds: At 25 yards, my wife who has very little rifle shooting experience shot the following: I couldn't get on the 50 yard firing range because shooters were out to 100 yards and would have been behind us. I tried a few shots at 100 yards but did not have a spotting scope/binoculars to know what I was doing, so I let it go and later inspection of the target suggests that was well advised. If I can learn to shoot reasonably accurately at 50 to 75 yards I will keep it as is.
I want to thank Andy Larsson at Skinner Sights for providing support during the process and sending me a complimentary short-stemmed brass aperture to replace the original; I damaged the threads on the original as a result of turning it down too far with a thin hex wrench inserted into the aperture. As noted in a previous post here, I was trying to lower the rear sight to compensate for a short-fiber optic front sight.
In summary, I like the Skinner Express Peep Sight mounted on the receiver, but finding the right front sight was a bit of a challenge. A blade that has a vertical adjustment would be challenging to engineer but would solve the problem (Tech Sights has one for 22 caliber rifles and I put his set on my Marlin 795; have not shot it yet!). I found the Skinner tall blade, I believe it was .70", worked with the Skinner Express Sight and so far, no issues at 25 yards. When I get it out to 50-75 yards and working fine, I will call it a success! One follow-up to come.
I then unscrewed the Skinner short-stemmed aperture about 1/2 way out and tightened it down and went to the range today. I have room with the Skinner Express Sight now to raise and lower shots.At 25 yards this is what I shot with my first seven rounds: At 25 yards, my wife who has very little rifle shooting experience shot the following: I couldn't get on the 50 yard firing range because shooters were out to 100 yards and would have been behind us. I tried a few shots at 100 yards but did not have a spotting scope/binoculars to know what I was doing, so I let it go and later inspection of the target suggests that was well advised. If I can learn to shoot reasonably accurately at 50 to 75 yards I will keep it as is.
I want to thank Andy Larsson at Skinner Sights for providing support during the process and sending me a complimentary short-stemmed brass aperture to replace the original; I damaged the threads on the original as a result of turning it down too far with a thin hex wrench inserted into the aperture. As noted in a previous post here, I was trying to lower the rear sight to compensate for a short-fiber optic front sight.
In summary, I like the Skinner Express Peep Sight mounted on the receiver, but finding the right front sight was a bit of a challenge. A blade that has a vertical adjustment would be challenging to engineer but would solve the problem (Tech Sights has one for 22 caliber rifles and I put his set on my Marlin 795; have not shot it yet!). I found the Skinner tall blade, I believe it was .70", worked with the Skinner Express Sight and so far, no issues at 25 yards. When I get it out to 50-75 yards and working fine, I will call it a success! One follow-up to come.
Last edited by MadCityJack on Sat Jun 10, 2017 5:31 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Henry Steel Carbine 357/38; Skinner Receiver Peep Sight
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Like those vice's, did you make them,??????? if so, what did you use for jaws, to keep from marking the weapon, thank Mike
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
Whaler17, welcome to the forum from CT.Whaler17 wrote:Like those vice's...
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
Been following your work on your steel .357 BB carbine. Looks to be a good job to me. I have the Henry Small Game carbine, and I shoot well with the receiver-mounted Skinner peep and front bead. But I've always liked a front blade, so think I'll check out what Skinner might have for my rifle in a blade. BTW, I really like the clarity and close-up photos of your Skinner front blade...very nice stuff. Aesthetics are not my top priority; I think the front blade looks cool on your rifle -- simple and solid.
Not least, both yours and your wife's targets show great POIs. That .357 Henry is a fine rifle. Enjoy!
Thanks for your posts.
Not least, both yours and your wife's targets show great POIs. That .357 Henry is a fine rifle. Enjoy!
Thanks for your posts.
MadCityJack wrote:Punched out the Skinner fiber optic, punched in the Skinner front blade sight. Sits high (and not so aesthetically pleasing), but affords the opportunity to file it down, as necessary. The goal is to get POI a bit higher and with the fiber optic (seeming the same size as factory, there was no room to lower the Skinner Express sight for adequate adjustment, so that's why I am now putting in the taller sight). I used Skinner's three sided file with one side smoothed so that only the sloped part of the dove tail is removed. The file works well. [etc.]
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
From what I can see on the POI at 25 yards, looks like the current combination is where you will need to be in terms of elevation adjustment available to you for other distances. Good work. Also, I think it's great the way you have shared. I'm sure it will help others.
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
I wish I had the skill to make vices. I purchased them on Amazon, along with protective inserts on the vices (see below). I also used felt, floor protectors on the vices for added protection--bought a package awhile ago. I hope that is helpful.Whaler17 wrote:Like those vice's, did you make them,??????? if so, what did you use for jaws, to keep from marking the weapon, thank Mike
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Henry Steel Carbine 357/38; Skinner Receiver Peep Sight
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Re: Skinner Peep Sight on Receiver
Thanks.MadCityJack wrote:...I purchased them on Amazon, along with protective inserts on the vices (see below). I also used felt, floor protectors on the vices for added protection--bought a package awhile ago. I hope that is helpful.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001 ... UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018Q ... UTF8&psc=1
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H006M Big Boy Brass .357 - H001 Classic .22LR - Uberti / Taylors & Co. SmokeWagon .357 5.5" - Uberti / Taylors & Co. RanchHand .22LR 5.5"