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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby Dennis H » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:52 pm

And take good care of that meat, second only to moose in my opinion. Although the State hadn't allowed me to dine on bighorn sheep yet.......someday!
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby JEBar » Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:55 pm

Dennis H wrote:Rc I've been shooting them out of a marlin guide gun, they cycle fine. I've probably killed a dozen or so elk with them. The issue I have with them is their construction. I take broadside shots hitting only rib bone on occasion. I don't find very big pieces of the bullet when field dressing. The biggest piece is usually the copper jacket. All dead elk of coarse I just wish they held together a bit better.



interesting observation .... does this mean you find they do not penetrate sufficiently to create an exit wound ?
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby Dennis H » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:48 pm

I think it hinges on a how squarely they hit a rib goin In. If they slip between the ribs they will pass through. Retention and penetration vary according to how squarely they hit a rib on entry. All have ended in a dead elk fortunately, but it makes me wonder about hitting a heavier bone.
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby BigAl52 » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:13 pm

They cycle just fine in my All Weather. Dennis I have read what you have experienced. The bullets tend to fragment alot and dont hold together but like you said they are recovering them out of animals that are dead. I just mentioned this in the first place as an alternative to someone who doesnt reload. I reload and would rather shoot one of my hunting loads than Hornadys. But not all people reload and it does take some time to develop a load for the hunting gun. Sometimes one gets lucky and runs across a load right away. Then other times it take 2 or 3 trips to the range to find one that works. Al
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby JEBar » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:38 am

Dennis H wrote:I think it hinges on a how squarely they hit a rib goin In. If they slip between the ribs they will pass through. Retention and penetration vary according to how squarely they hit a rib on entry. All have ended in a dead elk fortunately, but it makes me wonder about hitting a heavier bone.



great info, thanks .... I well remember bear hunting in the thick woods of NC's Smoky Mountains with my grandfather back when the Winchester 30-30 and Marlin 35 were the kings of the woods in our area and the 30-06 we coming on the scene .... my grandfather took more bear and deer than I'll ever see with his 30-30 .... I still have it and our oldest son is bound and determined to be the third generation to take a deer with it .... anyway, my grandfather scoffed at the concept of a bullet blasting all the way through .... he said once the bullet exited all of the energy it expended was wasted .... he wanted his bullets to expend its energy inside the animal
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby bdbrown66 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:55 am

I must say, hunting hogs was the furthest thing from my mind on my honeymoon. I was hunting for something a bit more...delicate. To each his own, tho. :)
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby Dennis H » Wed Jun 28, 2017 3:13 pm

BigAl52 wrote:They cycle just fine in my All Weather. Dennis I have read what you have experienced. The bullets tend to fragment alot and dont hold together but like you said they are recovering them out of animals that are dead. I just mentioned this in the first place as an alternative to someone who doesnt reload. I reload and would rather shoot one of my hunting loads than Hornadys. But not all people reload and it does take some time to develop a load for the hunting gun. Sometimes one gets lucky and runs across a load right away. Then other times it take 2 or 3 trips to the range to find one that works. Al



That's why I picked em BigAl. I dont reload and the dang things shoot good out of my gun! I think on his hog hunt this round would be fine and so would his fusion round that his gun likes. I don't think you could go wrong either way.
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby BigAl52 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:18 pm

They will hammer those hogs. I have seen them shot with some on You tube the hogs were hog gone.
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby Rchunter26 » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:10 am

Ok guys, think I might need to change up mg ammo. Got the gun back from Henry with a new barrel to fix the lever pop issue. Took it out to the range and really couldn't hold the accuracy I could before. I don't think the new barrel likes the federal fusions anymore.. I was going to pick up a couple boxes of power shoks, but it's there another brand that they like? Really don't have the ability to drop 60 a box on buffalo bore.... Anyone used armscor?
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Re: 45-70 for Oklahoma hogs

Postby tractortad » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:38 am

Have you tried any of the Winchester Super-x 300 JHP they sell at Walmart for about $33/box (around here, anyway). This ammo works pretty good in our H010CC. I would imagine that this round would knock the stuffing out of a hog inside of 100 yds....
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