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The wimpy 45LC no more
The wimpy 45LC no more
I’ve been reloading 45LC at Ruger pressures for over 4 decades. First with a couple of Blackhawks then added a T/C Contender single shot pistol with a 10 inch barrel. Loads with the 10 incher could near equal the legendary 45-60 (300 grain bullet @ 1390 fps), a cousin of the 45-70.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-60_Winchester
When I heard Henry was to come out with a steel 45LC with a 1:16 twist and rated for Ruger pressures, I reached nirvana (and for my checkbook). Even the carbine can easily surpass the 45-60 and approach the 45-70 with 300 grain and above bullets. Shooting anything of less weight was for plinking and not for serious work. Sierra and Speer make outstanding jacketed flatpoint/softpoint 300 grainers suited to go thru bears and/or cut down trees. Oregon Trail (Lazercast), Cast Performance, Hunter Supply and others have hardcast 300-395 grainers with and without gas checks. Loading data is usually available from the makers.
Now, the BBS (and other BB’s) have a cartridge length limitation of about 1.600” from the factory. This impacts the heavier bullet’s powder space greatly. However, a little DYI or a trip to the g’smith can cure this handicap. There is a “fence” at the back of the lifter that stops the cartridge as it springs out of the feeding tube. This fence also limits the cartridge length. File, sand, machine .060-.070” off the foreword vertical face of the fence and you are set to load to 1.645-1.650”.
So, if you are a hunter and have a BB? in 45LC, I encourage you to forego using those wimpy light “pistol” bullets.
Sample data:
Loaded to 1.645" COAL
Speer 300g JSP, 22g 296/H110, large pistol primer
Standard warnings apply!
See reviews:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/55747 ... -box-of-50
Part 1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-60_Winchester
When I heard Henry was to come out with a steel 45LC with a 1:16 twist and rated for Ruger pressures, I reached nirvana (and for my checkbook). Even the carbine can easily surpass the 45-60 and approach the 45-70 with 300 grain and above bullets. Shooting anything of less weight was for plinking and not for serious work. Sierra and Speer make outstanding jacketed flatpoint/softpoint 300 grainers suited to go thru bears and/or cut down trees. Oregon Trail (Lazercast), Cast Performance, Hunter Supply and others have hardcast 300-395 grainers with and without gas checks. Loading data is usually available from the makers.
Now, the BBS (and other BB’s) have a cartridge length limitation of about 1.600” from the factory. This impacts the heavier bullet’s powder space greatly. However, a little DYI or a trip to the g’smith can cure this handicap. There is a “fence” at the back of the lifter that stops the cartridge as it springs out of the feeding tube. This fence also limits the cartridge length. File, sand, machine .060-.070” off the foreword vertical face of the fence and you are set to load to 1.645-1.650”.
So, if you are a hunter and have a BB? in 45LC, I encourage you to forego using those wimpy light “pistol” bullets.
Sample data:
Loaded to 1.645" COAL
Speer 300g JSP, 22g 296/H110, large pistol primer
Standard warnings apply!
See reviews:
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/55747 ... -box-of-50
Part 1
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Curious. If you mill that "fence" to take a longer OAL, doesn't that void your warranty, should you need to use it?
Not stirring anything up here, simply curious. Thanks.
Not stirring anything up here, simply curious. Thanks.
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Have shot such loads in a Contender. Definitely not grandpa's 45 Colt. Recoil is not for the faint of heart.
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Maybe. I would play with the rifle for a year first to workout any bugs then consider it if wanted. The jacketed and hardcast 300g bullets don't need the enhancement. Get to the 360+ and might want it.Rifletom wrote:Curious. If you mill that "fence" to take a longer OAL, doesn't that void your warranty, should you need to use it?
Not stirring anything up here, simply curious. Thanks.
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up. I would be staying with the 250-255gr cast bullets for desert use. No hunting with it.
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Ahhh, the bench strong-hand 3 round palsy, I know it well. The same loads in the BB will barely get your attention.North Country Gal wrote:Have shot such loads in a Contender. Definitely not grandpa's 45 Colt. Recoil is not for the faint of heart.
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Yeah, that was back in the day when I was a recoil junkie. I'm reformed, now. I don't shoot that stuff, anymore. Nope, I've been cured. Well, okay, mostly. Now and then, I get crazy, like the old days. Just bought a 30-06 pistol barrel for the Encore. Whoo Hoo!
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Henrys are warrantied for life. I would not do anything like this to mine as I wouldnt take the chance of messing with the warranty. Why not just get a 45-70 if you want more lead. Aint nothin whimpy about the 70.
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
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Aren't the spring trimming and trigger pull modifications seen in other topics also messing with the warranty?
Aren't the spring trimming and trigger pull modifications seen in other topics also messing with the warranty?
BigAl52 wrote:Henrys are warrantied for life. I would not do anything like this to mine as I wouldnt take the chance of messing with the warranty. Why not just get a 45-70 if you want more lead. Aint nothin whimpy about the 70.
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Re: The wimpy 45LC no more
Come now, you know the answer ... Because.BigAl52 wrote:Henrys are warrantied for life. I would not do anything like this to mine as I wouldnt take the chance of messing with the warranty. Why not just get a 45-70 if you want more lead. Aint nothin whimpy about the 70.
I'm sure a spare untouched lifter could be standing by as a replacement.
And, its an entirely different caliber.
And, all the starving g'smiths in Africa.
And, if I wanted to get top performance out my 45-70, someone would come along and say I should've gotten a 45-90, a 45-110, a 458 Winmag.
In jest.
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