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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by ESquared » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:59 pm

So far, I've not been able to find a current mfr site or handbook listing that shows both Unique and this specific Horandy 110 gr HP boolit.

Alliant's site shows a recipe with a Speer 110 gr "UCHP" (?) and a 125 gr Speer "GDHP" (again - ?). Must dig deeper, grasshopper...

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/ ... rtridge=28
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by ESquared » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:04 pm

Looks like UCHP and GDHP are Speer proprietary acronyms, not unlike Hornady's "XTP." It's a Jacketed, Hollow-Point boolit.
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by Mistered » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:53 pm

but I tend to think that bullet manufacturers' data is more reliable than powder manufacturers; though that is a subjective opinion.
I once read an article about this and I do recall the 'slant' went to the powder mfgs. As most likely having the more reliable data and for a few good reasons.
The powder mfgs. Have their reputations on the line to produce the safest data available - it ain't the bullets that cause the 'Ka-Booms' but overloaded or incorrectly used powder. Many of the 'newer' or lessor known mfgs. Of bullets most likely use powder mfg. data from the POWDER mfgs. As a starting point for their bullets since they are most likely not going to invest the time and money to 'reinvent the wheel' when a starting point already exists.
Over the years whenever I have read about an ammo problem it seems to be from a mfg. of non-major name bullets who started producing loaded ammo for sale. One of these is Buffalo Bore - it always seems they receive a higher percentage of complaints than other manufacturers.
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by BigAl52 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:51 pm

Never shot any 110 in 357 either. Never wanted to go that small. I have been shooting some Montana Gold 125grhp and they have been working real well. Ive been using up some red dot to shoot them with.
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by Mistered » Thu Nov 08, 2018 11:43 pm

The only reason I stick with 158s is because I shoot the same ammo out of my mod 66 and there is the issue of the cracking K frame forcing cones but with as much as I have read on it I think it was a 'fluke' that only affected certain K frame guns - and possibly not all ammo related.
And it reduces the number of boxes of bullets I have around.
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by CT_Shooter » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:45 am

ESquared wrote:So far, I've not been able to find a current mfr site or handbook listing that shows both Unique and this specific Horandy 110 gr HP boolit.

Alliant's site shows a recipe with a Speer 110 gr "UCHP" (?) and a 125 gr Speer "GDHP" (again - ?). Must dig deeper, grasshopper...
Richard Lee's Modern Reloading, Second Edition lists data on page 524 for a generic 110 grain Jacketed Bullet using Unique, starting at 8.5 (1291 fps) and Max at 9.7 (1447 fps)
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by BigAl52 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:47 am

You might check out Zero Bullets from Roze distribution. They are good bullets and can be bought cheaper than the speer hornady sierra, and the rest of the name brands. Montana gold is also a good one. There is also your copper plated bullets from Xtreme and Berrys. I have some of the Berrys and Xtreme in the basement now.
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by CT_Shooter » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:23 am

BigAl52 wrote:You might check out Zero Bullets from Roze distribution. They are good bullets...
I second that recommendation. Great bullets at great prices.
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant.mv ... de=ZBJ-38S
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by JEBar » Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:44 am

agree .... we use their 158 gr JHP's
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Re: 357 "Plinker" Load?

Post by ESquared » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:22 am

CT_Shooter wrote:
ESquared wrote:So far, I've not been able to find a current mfr site or handbook listing that shows both Unique and this specific Horandy 110 gr HP boolit.

Alliant's site shows a recipe with a Speer 110 gr "UCHP" (?) and a 125 gr Speer "GDHP" (again - ?). Must dig deeper, grasshopper...
Richard Lee's Modern Reloading, Second Edition lists data on page 524 for a generic 110 grain Jacketed Bullet using Unique, starting at 8.5 (1291 fps) and Max at 9.7 (1447 fps)
Very interesting. My Lyman (50th Ed.) has a 110 gr HP table, and suggests starting Unique @ 7.4 fr for 1,489 fps and Maxing out at 10.0 gr for 1,873 fps.

While that seems like a pretty big discrepancy on both the bottom and top ends, I'd say we've got it surrounded.

FWIW, the Lyman manual shows 2400 as the most accurate, @ 20.3 gr for 2,291 fps!
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