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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by ESquared » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:51 pm

New as I am to this whole rifle ammo world, I don't know much about the online reviewers, but I've read a few by this guy and he seems to be "tough but fair," even though he has some biases I don't care for (but that's another story). This review is from 2005 (!), but he got some darn good accuracy out of the Leverevolution 30-30 at 100 yds. I'm seeing it on AmmoSeek for under $20/box, but then there's shipping, so about a buck a round to get it dialed in. The ballistics are pretty impressive, based on my newbie knowledge base, however.

https://www.chuckhawks.com/leverevolution.htm
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by Mistered » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:34 pm

Occasionally there is ammo made to improve the ballistics and range of what are considered to be marginally performing rounds and in the case of the Leverevolution there seems to be a marked improvement but not so much it justifies the price over conventional ammo.
And if one is just target shooting it's overkill due to price.
A real blooper was the saboted .22 rounds loaded in some .30 cal rounds to function as 'varmint' ammo. One brand was called 'Accelerator' but due to such poor accuracy I believe all commercially loaded brands have dropped it.
If I were going to buy .30-30 ammo I would choose a brand that use 125 gr HP bullets as these will give probably optimum in trajectory and velocity even though most modern factory ammo is loaded to somewhat lower velocities than in the past.
Handloading this particular bullet however results in some pretty good ammo and I'll be loading some up soon myself.
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by Mags » Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:42 pm

Care needs to be taken when buying ammo from the supplier's Ammoseek points one to.
Some of the suppliers gouge on shipping (charge shipping per qty item). Others suppliers most of the shipping is mostly amortized over the qty of items ordered.

example of the first: $19 per box + $12 shipping per box. $31 per box regardless of the number of boxes ordered. Not a good buy

example of the 2nd: $19 per box + $12 shipping for the first box ($31 box) or $13 shipping for 2 boxes ($25.50 box) or $15 for 3 boxes ($24.00 box). A better buy the more boxes bought, shipping becomes less of a percentage of the total cost.

Regardless, still have to buy quite a few boxes to get the cost per round to about $1 including shipping.
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by steider » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:26 am

Purchased the Henry single shot for the sole purpose of using any bullet I want in a 30-30. Ohh the shame I have. :cry:
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by ESquared » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:57 am

steider wrote:Purchased the Henry single shot for the sole purpose of using any bullet I want in a 30-30. Ohh the shame I have. :cry:
Congrats on your new Henry! Please let us know what you load it up with and how it all (the rifle and the ammo) performs for you! Sounds like you have a favorite recipe (or two)?!
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by Mags » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:48 pm

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Hey Steider, welcome to the forum from the TV Oregon!
steider wrote:Purchased the Henry single shot for the sole purpose of using any bullet I want in a 30-30. Ohh the shame I have. :cry:
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by Rifletom » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:08 am

I've always loaded Hornady 170gr FN for my Mod 94 30-30. Recently found in my garage a coffee can with about 250 Rem core-lokt RNFP bullets! I have no idea when I bought these or what I may have used them in. But, I just loaded up:
10 with 34gr Win 748
10 with 35gr Win 748
10 with 36gr Win 748. All with mag primers. Can't wait to see how these shoot.
Then, I might try some 125gr bullets to see how those work for plinking. Gonna be a fun winter.
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by ESquared » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:38 am

Nice discovery, Tom! Let us know how the different recipes turn out. ALways nice to find a stash of something you'd forgotten about...
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by ditto1958 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:41 pm

I use 30-30 bullets. That is, roundnose, and I usually get the 150 grain. I prefer Sierra, but Hornady is usually more available and a little cheaper. IMR-3031, usually 30 grains. (One reason 3031 got popular for 30-30 is that it has the load data in its name. You can use 30 or 31 grains of powder).*

This load is accurate at 100 yards in all of my 30-30 lever guns. If I do my job, it will shoot 1 inch three shot groups.

*Note that published load data has been lawyerized in recent years, and most loading manuals say 30.5 grains is the most you can use in 30-30 ammo with 150 grain bullets. Hodgdon used to publish 33 grains as the maximum load. Did a whole bunch of Winchester 94’s blow up in recent years? I think not.
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Re: 30-30 Loads

Post by Mistered » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:25 pm

ditto on the 3031 powder.
I used to use it exclusively myself and anything loaded with it was always very accurate.
Over the last several years however I have gotten away from the extruded powders as they don't meter very and typically need to be short weighed and topped off with a dribbler for each round.
I started using Accurate TAC powder for my full house 30-30 loads as it doubles as very good powder for .223 and meters spot on due it being a very fine grain powder.
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