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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by henry22 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:45 am

Mags wrote:Maybe price increase hasn't reached my area. I see .17 HMR going for $50 USD, box of 200 ($0.25ea USD). This week on sale for $40 USD.
Mags, what State are you in? I'm curious to know why your pricing is so much lower than ours - notwithstanding the U.S. to CDN dollar exchange. I'd LOVE to know what my range or hunting store buys their ammo for — their cost.

Here's why... there's a company not far from where I live, they deal in rifles, ammo etc, but the public can't buy from them. They supply most of the other vendors in my area, and there aren't many vendors, hunting stores, my range, I think even our Cabela's buys from them.

Therefore, NONE of those vendors are paying more for it than another. With ammunition, like any product, you hit a threshold, where you can't buy it for a price any lower than X, or else they'd be giving it away.

I asked my range guy months ago, I said "Ok, if I'm buying a box of 200 rounds for $56.00 including all tax and my 10% off card etc, how much LESS would I pay if I bought a case of 10 boxes (each case has 10 boxes of 200 rounds each, or 2000 rounds.) He said it's the same price basically, that I'd have to buy "CASES" - we didn't get into the details, but much more than a few.

I wonder what CCI sells a case for, if you're a vendor. I'm almost interested in finding out what I need to do to become a vendor. Definitely permits, legal stuff, and a license. But let's say I got all that, I wonder how much less I could pay for the ammo. Where's the margin for CCI, I'd love to know.

If the margins are so low on ammo for resellers, they'd stop carrying it - but they don't. I think it should be like any other commodity, if I pay for it and can order it from the manufacturer directly, I should have the right to do so.

Case in point: My range guy quoted me this absurd hike in price for CCI A17, from 49.99 to 74.99. But look here:
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/cc ... f-200.html $64.95 CDN.

Why are they charging $10 bucks less for the same thing? I paid a range fee for the year, I think my ammo price should be reflected in that.
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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by henry22 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:46 am

Mags +1 — Absolutely!
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Post by Mags » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:20 am

Near Portland Oregon. The A17 rounds are USD $49.99/200 (no state tax here). Looks like CA/USD exchange rate Friday was 1.28/1. So should be seeing CA ~$64/200. Does your range guy force you to buy ammo from him to shoot at his range? Some here do and the ammo price the range charges is outrageous. I quit going and now shoot at home almost exclusively.
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Post by Mags » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:34 am

To answer your vendor question, no I'm not one. Think one can get into the ball park of ammunition margins by looking at the cost of what it takes to reload other calibers. I think earlier you mentioned 0.15ea. Add labor, packaging, shipping and handling, loss for quality control testing, so maybe gets to 0.35ea.
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Post by Mistered » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:13 am

What I may not understand Mistered, is why do they the "system" want to limit the sport? I
I can't answer this question on this forum as politics are not allowed.
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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by Henry88 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:28 am

Mistered wrote:
What I may not understand Mistered, is why do they the "system" want to limit the sport? I
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Price of everything going up short term. Sometimes you gotta take a step backwards to ultimately make progress. That's about as far as we can take it...............
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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by CT_Shooter » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:09 pm

henry22 wrote: CCI A17 200 round box.
.43 cents per round, — a .15 cent per round increase. ABSURD!

What I'd like to know from the Americans here, what do you guys pay for this same ammo, including taxes?
Target Sports USA sells it for 42.99. My state taxes are 6.35%. So, the total, with free shipping, is $44.66 USD (22 cents per round) or $57.27 Canadian (29 cents per round).

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/cci-a17 ... 58562.aspx
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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by Mags » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:01 pm

Looking for less expensive .30-30 win ammo. Least expensive I could find is Partizan PPU at $120USD/200 ($0.60ea). Never heard of Partizan PPU. Are they any good?
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Post by CT_Shooter » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:32 pm

Mags wrote:Looking for less expensive .30-30 win ammo. Least expensive I could find is Partizan PPU at $120USD/200 ($0.60ea). Never heard of Partizan PPU. Are they any good?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prvi_Partizan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKEJqdsd9yk

Let us know what you think.
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Re: Ammunition Prices On The Rise

Post by BigAl52 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:51 pm

Im not sure about Canada and there shipping from the States but you can use ammo seek online and find some. CT has given you a good lead in Target Sports also. Another place I use here is SGammo they always have good prices and fair freight. Al
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