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Your most accurate .357 reloads
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
Loading some X-treme 158gr plated RNFP over 7.0gr Unique. OA: is 1.580"-1.585".
Same bullet, but, am having a dickens of a time finding reliable info for Alliant 2400 to use with plated bullets. Manuals, bullet and powder web sites are wildly different. And trying to get an answer to e-mail from x-treme is impossible. I've been handloading a looong time. Just not for plated. I 'll get it sorted out.[Hopefully].
Oh, BTW; std SPP's used.
Same bullet, but, am having a dickens of a time finding reliable info for Alliant 2400 to use with plated bullets. Manuals, bullet and powder web sites are wildly different. And trying to get an answer to e-mail from x-treme is impossible. I've been handloading a looong time. Just not for plated. I 'll get it sorted out.[Hopefully].
Oh, BTW; std SPP's used.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
I think BigAl is an Xtreme bullet fan, you might check with him on experience with plated boolits. Or maybe he can help you get a response...Rifletom wrote:Loading some X-treme 158gr plated RNFP over 7.0gr Unique. OA: is 1.580"-1.585".
Same bullet, but, am having a dickens of a time finding reliable info for Alliant 2400 to use with plated bullets. Manuals, bullet and powder web sites are wildly different. And trying to get an answer to e-mail from x-treme is impossible. I've been handloading a looong time. Just not for plated. I 'll get it sorted out.[Hopefully].
Oh, BTW; std SPP's used.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
Rifletom
One of the reasons for that is usually 2400 is a mid range powder and the velocity many times exceeds what is recommended for those plated bullets. I usually run 2400 under jacketed bullets and treat those plated bullets like I would a regular cast bullet. I tend to also use Unique, Universal and Red Dot for those types of bullets. You may have read in other threads but you can get some jacketed bullets made by Zero bullets and Montana Gold bullets. They tend to be a little cheaper than the major brands and I have had good luck with the bullets from Zero.
http://rozedist.com/
One of the reasons for that is usually 2400 is a mid range powder and the velocity many times exceeds what is recommended for those plated bullets. I usually run 2400 under jacketed bullets and treat those plated bullets like I would a regular cast bullet. I tend to also use Unique, Universal and Red Dot for those types of bullets. You may have read in other threads but you can get some jacketed bullets made by Zero bullets and Montana Gold bullets. They tend to be a little cheaper than the major brands and I have had good luck with the bullets from Zero.
http://rozedist.com/
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
BigAl52 and ESquared,
First, I finally got a reply from X-treme. Not their fault, mine. I misspelled their E-mail address. So we got that sorted out.
They said I should be able to load up to 1500 fps/MV. If I have any issues, drop down to 1300 or a little more. This would be with 2400. So, this gives me a very good guideline to work with. Whew!
Second, I have Unique and Universal on hand. I believe most of my concerns have been addressed. And I will follow BigAl's advice. Thanks BigAl. Winter projects and shooting to commence.
First, I finally got a reply from X-treme. Not their fault, mine. I misspelled their E-mail address. So we got that sorted out.
They said I should be able to load up to 1500 fps/MV. If I have any issues, drop down to 1300 or a little more. This would be with 2400. So, this gives me a very good guideline to work with. Whew!
Second, I have Unique and Universal on hand. I believe most of my concerns have been addressed. And I will follow BigAl's advice. Thanks BigAl. Winter projects and shooting to commence.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
This is the exact load I am using I.E. 7 grains of Unique with a 158 gr plated SWC bullet. Only difference is I am using HSMs instead of Xtreme as I can get them locally. Excellent accuracy however.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
I believe I borrowed that load from one of your earlier posts. Hopefully, I'll be able to find out this weekend.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
Was back out to the desert this past Tuesday with a few rifles, but, primary "testing" was with 2400 with 158gr XTP's and X-treme 158 RNFP plated. The XTP's worked as expected; very well with 12.0gr 2400. With 10.5gr 2400 and the plated bullets, same results. Kinda surprised with that, but, that is what I was hoping for. Next time out, those 158gr plated rounds with Unique. A load I "borrowed" from Mistered. If that load works as expected, then I'll have two or three good loads for the Henry. Those lever rifles and the desert just go hand in hand.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
As many of you know, I've been trying to reinvent the wheel with lighter 357 projectiles (and I'm not done!), but I have a lb of H110 that I haven't cracked open yet, so I decided to revisit this thread.
Glad I did, as I read it with entirely new eyes, given my experiences of the past few weeks.
Based on this, I'm now going to prep a 158 gr XTP Shoot-Out, using the lower weights of Alliant 2400 (as suggested by RifleTom), the higher weights of 2400 (as endorsed by BigAl) and the "middle of the road" weights of H110 as recommended by CT_Shooter (plus another H110 weight that I haven't figured out yet, just to make it interesting).
I've already got the 2400 loads done, and will work on the H110s over the weekend.
More to come!
Glad I did, as I read it with entirely new eyes, given my experiences of the past few weeks.
Based on this, I'm now going to prep a 158 gr XTP Shoot-Out, using the lower weights of Alliant 2400 (as suggested by RifleTom), the higher weights of 2400 (as endorsed by BigAl) and the "middle of the road" weights of H110 as recommended by CT_Shooter (plus another H110 weight that I haven't figured out yet, just to make it interesting).
I've already got the 2400 loads done, and will work on the H110s over the weekend.
More to come!
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
Here's what I'll be shooting. 20 rounds of each variable, so 10 round groups, shot twice. Will likely devise an inverted triangle on a mini-paper plate, just for fun. All 158 gr XTP, 50 yds, bagged, 1.5-4X20 Leo VX Freedom, @ 4X. Pink box-top.
Alliant 2400
12.5 gr
14.5 gr
H110
14.0 (Sorry, Stan, had to round up)
16.0 (Lyman manual has max @ 17.3, as I recall)
Range day will likely be Monday.
EDITED to replace PHOTO with a more acceptable version.
Alliant 2400
12.5 gr
14.5 gr
H110
14.0 (Sorry, Stan, had to round up)
16.0 (Lyman manual has max @ 17.3, as I recall)
Range day will likely be Monday.
EDITED to replace PHOTO with a more acceptable version.
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Re: Your most accurate .357 reloads
Here is a deer hunting load I developed long ago for a 10” barreled T/C Contender:
357 Mag
Bullet: 180g Oregon Trail Lazercast flat point
Case: Starline
Powder/wt: BlueDot/9.2g
Primer: CCI 500
OAL: 1.598” w/mild roll crimp
It produced a 2 MOA group with a 6x scope. It did put mule deer down at 100 yards or less. I have no idea if it will fit in a Henry.
357 Mag
Bullet: 180g Oregon Trail Lazercast flat point
Case: Starline
Powder/wt: BlueDot/9.2g
Primer: CCI 500
OAL: 1.598” w/mild roll crimp
It produced a 2 MOA group with a 6x scope. It did put mule deer down at 100 yards or less. I have no idea if it will fit in a Henry.
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