45-70 Jacketed Bullets

[JEBar]

does anyone know of a source for 400 - 405 grain jacketed 45-70 bullets ?

[Steve51]

Midway USA shows this one (not cheap). They also list one from Remington (405 gr) and one from Barnes (400 gr) but they are not available now due to limited production. They do seem hard to find.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/845534 ... -box-of-50

[bandit1250]

I sold 14 boxes of Hornady 350gr. to a guy who had been trying to buy some 400gr. and couldn't locate any. He was thrilled at getting the 350's and likes them as well as the 400's he was using. They are hard to find at my LGS and shows lately. If I still had my 45/70 I would probably get in to casting my own. Hope you can find some 400's. The 405 Remington was easy to buy a while back and now I don't see them any where.

[JEBar]

I sold 14 boxes of Hornady 350gr. to a guy who had been trying to buy some 400gr. and couldn't locate any. He was thrilled at getting the 350's and likes them as well as the 400's he was using. They are hard to find at my LGS and shows lately. If I still had my 45/70 I would probably get in to casting my own. Hope you can find some 400's. The 405 Remington was easy to buy a while back and now I don't see them any where.

I looked at Midway .... my problem with dealing with them is their shipping cost usually drive them out of my market .... if I have to go that route I will, was just in hope of finding another option

[imeccentric]

Just curious as to why you want jacketed bullets for the 45-70. I've tried both and see no benefit, but that may be just me.

[BigAl52]

I will second the 350 Hornadys. There great and very accurate in my 45-70. Al

[JEBar]

Just curious as to why you want jacketed bullets for the 45-70. I've tried both and see no benefit, but that may be just me.

muzzle velocity without leaving lead in the barrel .... in addition, I'm new to firing lead bullets .... I know what to expect from jacketed hollow points, have no clue what to expect from solid lead hunting bullets

[imeccentric]

My lead bullets are tested at 2000 fps and leave no leading at all. Unless you're hunting big bears, you really don't need velocity with these things. 1600 will get the job done on almost anything. Then again, the big bang with hot loads does make it more fun All of the smaller calibers rely on expansion and shock to get the job done. These big bore guns don't need to expand and the shock value is already built into the big meplat on the bullets. Someone with more experience than me can chime in here, but don't most jacketed bullets use a softer lead core so they don't penetrate so much. All that said, you should shoot what you are comfortable with. Have fun.

[JEBar]

My lead bullets are tested at 2000 fps and leave no leading at all. Unless you're hunting big bears, you really don't need velocity with these things. 1600 will get the job done on almost anything. Then again, the big bang with hot loads does make it more fun All of the smaller calibers rely on expansion and shock to get the job done. These big bore guns don't need to expand and the shock value is already built into the big meplat on the bullets. Someone with more experience than me can chime in here, but don't most jacketed bullets use a softer lead core so they don't penetrate so much. All that said, you should shoot what you are comfortable with. Have fun.

agree on all counts .... I like increasing muzzle velocity so as to help reduce the rainbow trajectory .... I'm old school in believing that having a bullet expend its energy within the big game animal is preferential to having it blow through the critter and expend energy traveling way on down the line .... to me, all energy expended by a bullet once it exits the game animal is wasted .... that's the reason I prefer jacket hollow points in most pistol and many rifle calibers for most of the big game animals one will find in the US .... the exception would be for the largest bears, moose and other such game with a body structure that impedes penetration to vital organs .... this is an old line of discussion .... I well remember it going on back when the 30-30 was king and folks started using 30-06's ....

[RiverRat]

300 grain Hornady, Speer or Seirra's JHP's will do the job very well on deer sized game and black bears. Reaching 2000 fps is obtainable without crazy pressure spikes. But as my 63 year old shoulder keeps reminding me that cast bullets will do the same job with much less punishment. I hunt the NE PA woods and the 405 grainers do very well on anything that roams these parts.