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IMR 4227 & coated lead load workup

Post by wolfman » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:21 pm

Traded into a jug of this powder some time back. Running low on my favorite jacketed bullets (Zero 158 grain soft points), and since heaven only knows when they'll be back in stock, decided to try some coated lead with it. Ordered 250 rnfp, coated 158 grain bullets from a semi-local place called Kimberlin Creek. Couldn't find much feedback on them, but for ~$25 or so shipped, it wasn't a high risk gamble.
It's a polymer coating, proprietary according to their website (assume it isn't hi-tek since it isn't advertised as such). All feedback I could find on IMR 4227 pointed to full case or even compressed loads working best... contacted KC to see if this was advisable with their bullets & they replied that it would be just fine. Really no danger other than some leading, so off I went.
Started with Hodgdon's minimum for 158 grain bullets, and the first few charges were so-so. A little dirty, and mediocre accuracy. The magic started when I hit 15 grains, which if my eyeballs are correct, is also about where it hits 100% load density with this bullet when seated to the crimp groove. Cleaner burning, and very good accuracy. Went as high as 15.7 grains; all loads at 15.0 & up were good but saw diminishing returns higher than 15.2 so that was declared the winner.
Had zero leading in the barrel, attributing that as much to the correct sizing as to the coating. Bullets are a consistent .358, and my barrel slugged .357. The coating does leave some residue behind, but it's neither excessive nor difficult to remove (easier than dealing with copper).
Velocities were very consistent at 15.2 grains, at least with the small sample size of 5 rounds I had left after accuracy testing:
1501 fps
1515 fps
1502 fps
1512 fps
1505 fps
I don't expect it would stay that tight over a larger sample size, nor do I think a 357 Magnum rifle load intended for sub-100 yard shooting needs to be that tight... but I sure am ok with it!

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Re: IMR 4227 & coated lead load workup

Post by runnin n gunnin » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:36 pm

Nice Print Wolfman, looks great
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Re: IMR 4227 & coated lead load workup

Post by JEBar » Tue Mar 23, 2021 9:39 pm

nicely reported .... looking forward to following you continued load development
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Post by Rifletom » Fri Mar 26, 2021 11:43 am

Nothing wrong with that load. Load some more and hopefully they're as consistent. Win-win!
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Post by fortyshooter » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:48 pm

Very nice load you came up with there!
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Re: IMR 4227 & coated lead load workup

Post by Shakey Jake » Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:18 pm

Hmm....never thought of 4227 for .357. I've used 2400, True Blue, and H110. I've got 2lbs of it since that's what I use to load .44 special and .45 LC. I've not much left of H110 and 2400. May need to try the 4227 if I ever get back to the range. I'm afraid that once I've used my primers I may not be able to find anymore.
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Re: IMR 4227 & coated lead load workup

Post by wolfman » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:28 pm

Shakey Jake wrote:
Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:18 pm
Hmm....never thought of 4227 for .357. I've used 2400, True Blue, and H110. I've got 2lbs of it since that's what I use to load .44 special and .45 LC. I've not much left of H110 and 2400. May need to try the 4227 if I ever get back to the range. I'm afraid that once I've used my primers I may not be able to find anymore.
Jake
From what I've been able to gather, folks seem pretty happy with it in .357 when shot out of a rifle, not as much with revolvers (especially if 4" or less barrel).
The general consensus seems to be:
- better in longer barrels
- better with full case or even lightly compressed
- needs magnum primers, even more so than W296/H110 (even found a few loads on loaddata.com that used small rifle primers)
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