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Gun Rant
- BrokenolMarine
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Gun Rant
I love to read, and have an eclectic taste in reading material. I read historical and military fiction, humor, mystery, horror, how to, whatever.
What gets me wound up are the easily avoided errors that well known writers make. Especially firearms related, and especially the same error over and over.
Let's take James Patterson for example. He has most of his law enforcement characters carrying Glocks. Novel after novel they are forever clicking off the safety, or putting their Glocks on safe. In others you'll have revolvers have the safety clicked on and off, or characters told it has a "full mag." another fav is officers racking the slide on their handgun to chamber a round prior to going into a dangerous situation. I don't know ANY department that has officers carry their duty weapon with the chamber empty.
I know Patterson has received letters regarding these goofs, they disrupt the flow of the page. (I wrote him via his publisher myself.) The errors continue thru all his series.
When I find writers who invest the efforts to get the facts right... I stick with them. Some write what they know, and pay consultants who are experts in what they don't, to proofread for factual or procedural mistakes. If Patterson himself came to me and asked me to provide this service since I wrote and pointed out a few errors. I would thank him, but decline. I would point him to my LE Rabbi, who has a depth of firearms knowledge that is impressive. He is also a retired Patrol Sergeant, with nearly thirty years behind the badge. That way, the man would get a twofer... Guns and police procedure.
What gets me wound up are the easily avoided errors that well known writers make. Especially firearms related, and especially the same error over and over.
Let's take James Patterson for example. He has most of his law enforcement characters carrying Glocks. Novel after novel they are forever clicking off the safety, or putting their Glocks on safe. In others you'll have revolvers have the safety clicked on and off, or characters told it has a "full mag." another fav is officers racking the slide on their handgun to chamber a round prior to going into a dangerous situation. I don't know ANY department that has officers carry their duty weapon with the chamber empty.
I know Patterson has received letters regarding these goofs, they disrupt the flow of the page. (I wrote him via his publisher myself.) The errors continue thru all his series.
When I find writers who invest the efforts to get the facts right... I stick with them. Some write what they know, and pay consultants who are experts in what they don't, to proofread for factual or procedural mistakes. If Patterson himself came to me and asked me to provide this service since I wrote and pointed out a few errors. I would thank him, but decline. I would point him to my LE Rabbi, who has a depth of firearms knowledge that is impressive. He is also a retired Patrol Sergeant, with nearly thirty years behind the badge. That way, the man would get a twofer... Guns and police procedure.
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Re: Gun Rant
With you all the way on this one. When I read a ridiculous error on a gun fact in a novel (and I've seen some whoppers), it destroys the credibility for me to the point I usually don't continue.
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Don't know if this would interest you, but my favorite author of all time is an Englishman named "Patrick O'Brien". He spent his early years in the British Admiralty researching the Napoleonic wars. His novels feature a British sea captain and his best friend as they fight through the war in different commands. The prose and detail is so great that his writings are considered Literature. I have read all of his works and even the half one he was completing when he died.
If you saw the movie "Master and Commander the Far Side of the World" starring Russel Crowe, that was a compilation of two of his novels.
https://www.patrickobrian.com
If you saw the movie "Master and Commander the Far Side of the World" starring Russel Crowe, that was a compilation of two of his novels.
https://www.patrickobrian.com
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Re: Gun Rant
Master and Commander is one of Miss Ts favorite movies. I love the actor who plays the doc... He has had some great parts... Awesome in A Knight's Tale.
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You can tell a lot about the character of a man...
by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him.
by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him.
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Re: Gun Rant
J.C. Pollack is another who usually gets the gun stuff right. His wife shot pistol matches with us for several years. She was quite good.
Always amazed me that some authors would research how the interior of San Quentin looked in the 1950s, or the Policy and Procedures for a certain Mental Hospital, but can't be bothered to get basic gun related facts straight.
Always amazed me that some authors would research how the interior of San Quentin looked in the 1950s, or the Policy and Procedures for a certain Mental Hospital, but can't be bothered to get basic gun related facts straight.
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You can tell a lot about the character of a man...
by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him.
by the way he treats those who can do nothing for him.
Re: Gun Rant
I continue to make the carnal error, and I can't stop.........
You know the one, c**p instead of m*g. You see, I can't even say it
But I blame the old '60s TV shows, like 'Combat'. Wasn't somebody always yelling something about a "clip". I guess I had the misfortune to grow up watching shows with M-1s
Alright everybody count your clips......
You know the one, c**p instead of m*g. You see, I can't even say it
But I blame the old '60s TV shows, like 'Combat'. Wasn't somebody always yelling something about a "clip". I guess I had the misfortune to grow up watching shows with M-1s
Alright everybody count your clips......
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- Vaquero
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Re: Gun Rant
Henry always liked that show, and Rat Patrol.Henry88 wrote:I continue to make the carnal error, and I can't stop.........
You know the one, c**p instead of m*g. You see, I can't even say it
But I blame the old '60s TV shows, like 'Combat'. Wasn't somebody always yelling something about a "clip". I guess I had the misfortune to grow up watching shows with M-1s
Alright everybody count your clips......
RP
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Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care".
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Re: Gun Rant
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Combat, Rat Patrol, 12 O'clock High, Hogans Heros....
Combat, Rat Patrol, 12 O'clock High, Hogans Heros....
Vaquero wrote:Henry always liked that show, and Rat Patrol.Henry88 wrote:I continue to make the carnal error, and I can't stop.........
You know the one, c**p instead of m*g. You see, I can't even say it
But I blame the old '60s TV shows, like 'Combat'. Wasn't somebody always yelling something about a "clip". I guess I had the misfortune to grow up watching shows with M-1s
Alright everybody count your clips......
RP
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Re: Gun Rant
Don't remember the 12 O'clock High.
yep HH was another good one.
RP
yep HH was another good one.
RP
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Monte Walsh "You have No idea how little I care".
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
Ain't No Apologies for My Temperament
Si vis pacem, para bellum
H001, H006, H012
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Re: Gun Rant
I remember 12 o'clock High....then again, I also remember when network TV channels would sign off at 12:00 o'clock.Vaquero wrote:Don't remember the 12 O'clock High.
yep HH was another good one.
RP
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