Spring has sprung. Get out and shoot your Henry

Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Sit back and talk with friends. Same rules as before. Rule #1-Relax with friends on the front or back porch.
Rule #2-No Politics, religion or anything above a G level.
User avatar
Hatchdog
Ranch Foreman
Posts: 5309
Joined: Mon Jan 06, 2020 5:04 pm
Location: Deer Park, WA
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by Hatchdog » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:21 am

Grunt67 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:07 am
So far, you can't carry a spare can of electricity for when you run out.
Somebody is daydreaming.
No, but you could carry a GAS powered generator and give your battery a re-charge.... :lol:

Just kidding of of course, I can’t imagine a small portable generator would have the output to charge the large bank of batteries in these cars.



“Another Green Pipe Dream”....... I like it, very rhymeie
0 x

User avatar
Headhog
Cowboy
Posts: 1392
Joined: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:51 pm
Location: Central Virginia
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by Headhog » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:45 pm

My plan is to be alive and well in 2035. Just remember all plans subject to change without notice!

Paul
1 x

User avatar
fortyshooter
Ranch Foreman
Posts: 6307
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 am
Location: Va.
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by fortyshooter » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:30 pm

I prefer gas operated vehicles until they get more battery life or miles per charge. No way can they get totally away from running things on fossil fuel.
0 x

User avatar
GunnyGene
Drover
Posts: 2581
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:15 am
Location: Monroe County, MS
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by GunnyGene » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:43 pm

fortyshooter wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:30 pm
I prefer gas operated vehicles until they get more battery life or miles per charge. No way can they get totally away from running things on fossil fuel.
And be able to charge it up in 5 minutes at one of the millions of charging stations across the country - oh wait, those don't exist yet. :roll:
1 x
Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes is rapidly becoming a reality (11/2023). Para Bellum.

Oldbrass
Cowboy
Posts: 1008
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Location: Central South Carolina
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by Oldbrass » Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:59 pm

The entire (clean energy) racket is a complete joke, Don't get me wrong it's out there but it's buried in the vaults of big oil. Tesla figured it out over 100 years ago and the day he died EVERY piece of his research was confiscated. The problem with green energy is there's no profit. The so-called environmentalists are just a cover story for the global elite. Go ahead and tell the world you discovered free clean energy and you'll suddenly have an accidental death like so many others
2 x
30-30, Helping bad fisherman eat since 1895

220
Cattle Driver
Posts: 765
Joined: Sun May 13, 2018 11:11 pm
Australia

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by 220 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:11 pm

It is clear those pushing for a total replacement of ICE have no idea of the energy requirements needed or where it will come from.
Not sure how Australia compares to the rest of the world but if you take the time to look at the figures our energy usage for transportation is actually greater than our total electricity production from all sources.
At a time when they are shutting down coal fired power stations that still provide our base load electricity and the majority of our production we need to increase electricity production by over 100% to switch to electric vehicles.
It just wont happen
0 x

User avatar
GunnyGene
Drover
Posts: 2581
Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:15 am
Location: Monroe County, MS
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by GunnyGene » Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:30 pm

220 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 6:11 pm
It is clear those pushing for a total replacement of ICE have no idea of the energy requirements needed or where it will come from.
Not sure how Australia compares to the rest of the world but if you take the time to look at the figures our energy usage for transportation is actually greater than our total electricity production from all sources.
At a time when they are shutting down coal fired power stations that still provide our base load electricity and the majority of our production we need to increase electricity production by over 100% to switch to electric vehicles.
It just wont happen
Electric production and distribution is only part of it. There's also the issue of recycling/disposal of millions of tons of battery packs every year. But, hey, maybe somebody will invent a flux capacitor and a little bitty cold fusion power plant that will fit in a motor scooter. ;) :lol:
1 x
Bellum Omnium Contra Omnes is rapidly becoming a reality (11/2023). Para Bellum.

User avatar
fortyshooter
Ranch Foreman
Posts: 6307
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:37 am
Location: Va.
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by fortyshooter » Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:47 pm

Waiting on the time machine thing so I can go back to the 60's !!! Remember when they tried the propane deal for cars and truck back in the 70's ? That didn't last long either. I just don't see total sun and wind power running cold cities in the middle of winter or during the high heat of summer!
0 x

User avatar
Centaur
Cowhand
Posts: 398
Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:31 pm
Location: Wyoming/Arizona
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by Centaur » Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:44 pm

Electric airliners; that’s gonna be fun to watch, along with electric semi tractors, and for that matter, farm tractors.
2 x

User avatar
CT_Shooter
Administrator emeritus
Posts: 5156
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 8:42 am
Location: Connecticut
United States of America

Re: Sunset of gasoline powered vehicles ?

Post by CT_Shooter » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:01 pm

If You Build It: Challenges Facing Electric Vehicle Infrastructure
Dan Eberhart, CEO of Canary, LLC. wrote:How will such an enormous network of charging stations be built? More important, who will pay?

Regarding the latter, it’s not unusual to hear the argument that government must fund charging infrastructure in order to make it viable for users to purchase EVs. But that’s not the case, or so we’ve learned from the forward-thinking Kansas City Power and Light (KCP&L).

Yes, you heard correctly. Forward-thinking. Utility company. Kansas.

In 2015, KCP&L put down $20 million to install 1,000 charging stations throughout its service territory of more than 800,000 customers. This was despite the fact that, at the time, there were only about 1,600 plug-in electric vehicles in the entire state, a quarter of them in the immediate Kansas City area.

Less than two years later, the utility had not only met its goal; it had exceeded it.

Today, there are more than 1,000 KCP&L-branded charging stations up and running in places like grocery stores, apartment complexes, and malls. In classic “if you build it, they will come” style, availability of charging infrastructure rapidly spurred EV uptake. The area straddling the Kansas-Missouri border is now one of the fastest-growing EV markets in the nation.

With one of the biggest barriers to EV acceptance out of the way, consumers came rushing in. And it all took place without a government mandate or dinging an unwilling taxpayer.

It’s not that KCP&L didn’t consult the government or attempt to pass along some of the cost to the public. It’s just that when the utility asked the Kansas state legislature for a boost in the form of a two- to three-cent monthly fee added to all customers’ bills, the response was a flat-out “no.” On the other side of the state line, Missouri legislators also nixed the request.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daneberhar ... structure/
0 x
H006M Big Boy Brass .357 - H001 Classic .22LR - Uberti / Taylors & Co. SmokeWagon .357 5.5" - Uberti / Taylors & Co. RanchHand .22LR 5.5"

Post Reply