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Re: New revolver

Post by Mistered » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:34 pm

Newer material found a minute ago indicates the 66 is also available in .38 special +P.
I have never heard of this before - the mod 67 is the .38 special version - hence the different model #.
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Re: New revolver

Post by Mags » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:43 pm

mags wrote:Newer material found a minute ago indicates the 66 is also available in .38 special +P.
mistered wrote:I have never heard of this before - the mod 67 is the .38 special version - hence the different model #.
Currently there seems to be more to the 66 and 67 differences.

Current specs from S&W website for the 60, 66 and 67.
The 68 information came from the revolverguy article link provided earlier.

60 - 357 Magnum, 38 S&W SPECIAL +P; matte stainless barrel, cylinder and frame, 2.25" barrel, 6.6" overall.
66 - 357 Magnum, 38 S&W SPECIAL +P; matte stainless barrel, cylinder and frame, 4.25" barrel, 9.6" overall.
67 - 38 S&W SPECIAL +P; satin stainless barrel, cylinder and frame, 4" barrel, 9.4" overall.

68 - 38 Special-only cylinder (shorter); stainless barrel, cylinder and frame, 6" barrel. Built using the 66 frame.
"The longer barrel extension and shorter cylinder are the major items that make a Model 68 visually distinctive."
Built mostly for California Highway Patrol. Some went to LAPD. Production ended 1988 with 6055 having been built.
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Re: New revolver

Post by Mistered » Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:56 pm

66 - 357 Magnum, 38 S&W SPECIAL +P; matte stainless barrel, cylinder and frame, 4.25" barrel, 9.6" overall.
What the description means is the gun is chambered for .357 Mag and can also shoot .38 Special - not that there is a Mod 66 ONLY in .38 Special.

In the case of the Mod 60 it should be mentioned up to the mod 60-4 they were ONLY chambered in .38 Special and the 60-9 became chambered in .357 Mag.
Currently one of the guns I am looking for is a Mod 60-4 3" full lug with adjustable sights - a highly sought after Smith - and I passed on one a while back. They are not particularly rare but don't sit around long either for sale.
AND if I happen to stumble onto a pre lock Mod 60-9 in .357 I might go that route. The 60-9 is a little beefier due to it's .357 chambering but the early ones were very well made and came with very nice wood grips. I remember admiring one in an LGS in about 1996 (about the time it was introduced) and went in to buy it and it was GONE!
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Re: New revolver

Post by Mags » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:17 pm

Mistered wrote: I am looking for is a Mod 60-4 3" full lug with adjustable sights - a highly sought after Smith - and I passed on one a while back. They are not particularly rare but don't sit around long either for sale.
oooow, ouch. Don't pass it up again if you can help it.

I kinda like the looks of the 68, has a more western looking profile with the long barrel.
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Re: New revolver

Post by Mistered » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:26 pm

I doubt you would ever find a mod 68 but keep your eye out for a Mod 67 in 6" or try to find a M-66 in 6" - not many were made as the 66 was marketed to the LEO market in 4" BUT when 6 inchers show up the prices are not that bad.- The most desirable Mod 66 now is the 2.5 " or 3" but there are not too many 3" out there.
I am currently looking for a Mod 27 in 6" - this is the 'N' frame .357 in bright blue with a completely checkered top strap. Currently looking at a few but I don't want one too beat up - prefer one that has been cared for but has been shot.
Another GREAT Smith is the Model K-38 Target Masterpiece Revolver Model 14. These have 'two' model numbers - but technically is a M-14 but he K-38 designates it as the Target Masterpiece. These were built on a semi-custom line and were mostly hand fitted and designated as 'bullseye' competition guns.
If you ever happen to handle a nice one they are works of art. Very nice fit, finish and bluing. The trigger pull is excellent from the factory and typically around 4 lbs with no creep. They also have the classic 'Three 'Ts' of a Smith - Target trigger (wide serrated) , Target hammer and Target grips - which are the typical 'Smith 'Football' grips but usually very nice wood and finished well.
Typically they are WAY more accurate than the shooter and as I have mentioned before about Smith 'sleepers' it is one also. A lot of people see them as nothing more than a 6" .38 Special Smith - but to the knowledgeable Smith aficionado they are well known.
This is a 'representative' pic of a K-38 - to the 'untrained' eye they are nothing special other than a M-14 .38 but look closely and you can see the wide target trigger and hammer. This is a later version with 'cutout' grips for speedloaders to clear.
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Re: New revolver

Post by North Country Gal » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:25 am

You guys are killing me with these beautiful Smiths. Here's my recently acquired Model 66-2, again, with a 6" barrel. Note that it is also a 3 T gun, which was a factory option at the time. Not quite as collectible as the earlier dash 66s, but still vintage enough to have that beautiful vintage S&W quality. Best trigger of any revolver we own, right now, and we do have several Performance Center Smiths. Paid the going market price for a vintage Smith in this condition, but glad I did. Got there the very day the gun was put up for sale at our local shop. From experience, I know all too well how quickly they disappear when they come up for sale. You can't delay when you find these.

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Re: New revolver

Post by Mags » Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:58 am

Mistered wrote:This is a 'representative' pic of a K-38 -
Love your K-38. Looks like my K-22. Real western looking.
NCG wrote:You guys are killing me with these beautiful Smiths. Here's my recently acquired Model 66-2, again
Happy to keep you and others entertained. That 66-2 with it's 6 inch barrel is quite attractive.
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Re: New revolver

Post by Mistered » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:26 pm

Love your K-38. Looks like my K-22. Real western looking.
Unfortunately not mine - hence the ‘representative’ picture!
With any luck however I will be posting a pic of a hopefully , new to me mod 27!
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Re: New revolver

Post by GFK » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:51 am

Just got off the phone with S&W inquiring what the -5 in my model 65-5 represented. After numerous repeats, I was able to ascertain the following enhancements:

1. Radius Stud Package and Floating Hand
2. Changed hammer nose and bushing
3. New Yoke Retention System

I could have purchased a history report for $75. But, I was informed a Smith & Wesson book on the history of revolvers would be cheaper. However, I did find a link that lists the dates the changes came out.

https://thefiringline.com/forums/archiv ... 15489.html


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Received form S&W:
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